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PostPosted: 15 Jan 2003 21:38    Post subject: I Timothy reasoning Reply with quote

Hey there my Cuban brother,

I think you brought up a very crucial point by referencing that scripture in Timothy. I think that man finds a way to rationalize and justify anything they want to do regardless of the effect. We "humanize" what god calls a sin as justification for what we want to do if it be smoking anything, eating and drinking anything. God said don't defile his temple, our bodies but if drinking alcohol were illegal someone out there would be justifying a reason to drink it, probably medical.

With that said, we are born to die. The very air we breathe contains germs and contaminants, so what do we do? Live your life as healthy as you can. Smoking anything shortens your life span. If that is what one wants to do then by all means go ahead, I am not judging anyone, because I am the same in that my diet and excersise practices could be alot better!! Live life to the fullest because tomorrow is not promised!
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PostPosted: 18 Jan 2003 03:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings brothers and sisters, the peace and love of Jesus Christ be with all of you. Hey, brother, I was reading your message, and I never found my last message, and I don't know why. I think you never want to reply me, I thought and I keep on thinking Jah have to forgive me if my words was too hard for you, but Jesus Christ teach me to say the truth is any circumstance, because Just we can find redemption if we just do all what our only messiah and teacher keeps on teaching us. Do you remember from the beginning I tell you that I don't wanna argue with no one, because Jah told me the just people live apart from trouble, so brothers and sisters, Jah forgive me if I hurt with my words your feelings, but I think that you have to look for a new way to teach the people because I think and I don't wanna offend you all what you are doing is a big abomination, and you know why. Jah said we are our own church, and Jah said if you find two or more people speaking about me, I will be there, and they will be my real church, and my blessing will be there. And Jah said nothing is come out from the foolish because all that's coming from the foolish belongs to the death kingdom, it's the same all that is come out from this world, belong to Satan, just escape from the death kingdom who make all what Jah wants. Brothers and sisters, the peace of Jesus Christ be with all of you, and I invite you to study the Bible again and try to do all what Jesus Christ says. I am not criticising you, just I want you to see the truth and the truth is Jesus Christ, the Light of the world, and no one can go to the Father if not through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the beginning and the end in everything. Peace and love brother, your brother man from Cuba, Leo Picapiedra. Blesses.
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PostPosted: 19 Jan 2003 00:20    Post subject: just reasoning Reply with quote

Hey picapierda,

No arguments here at all bro. The topic was simply accepting Christ and smoking herb. My opinion was simply that smoking in general isn't healthy, but many believe that smoking herb will bring you closer to God which was the whole debate. It's okay to disagree, but I agree with you that we should all be studying Jah word and doing what he says indeed.
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PostPosted: 19 Jan 2003 14:41    Post subject: Re: Herb Reply with quote

The topic, in my opinnion, was not whether or not to smoke up the collie, but the topic is whether someone who does not accept Yesus Kristos as the DIVINE Savior should team up with Christians to fight people who smoke herb.
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PostPosted: 20 Jan 2003 09:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

In response to that, I don't think that anyone of any religious belief should "team up" and fight against people who smoke herb.
I don't think it's right to assume that a requisite of Christians should be that they don't smoke. Like in my previous posts we tend to moralize certain issues as Christians as a whole. Issues like Sex, drugs, alcohol, cloning, conservatism, liberalism, dreadlocks, whatever have you.
There are many Christians who commit sin and one has no right to judge the other.

So, to say what I believe outright and without apology as the original heading to this topic: Yes, I believe it is possible to accept Christ and to smoke herb. I believe, and this is my opinion, that anyone who continues to seek God in spirit and truth will eventually not smoke herb as time goes on because whatever satisfaction that the person was getting out of smoking God will replace. God IS the only thing that we all "need" in life. As we feed ourselves with God's word, prayer and devotion alot of other things that we do fall to the side. (And I'm not just talking about herb anymore, see my above-mentioned list of "issues" in life) Sometimes people get the feeling that "I just didn't want to do it anymore" or "It didn't feel right anymore". That to me is God maturing us, and we ALL go through that in different areas in our lives, with different issues, and circumstances. When one door is closed, another is opened.

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PostPosted: 20 Jan 2003 14:41    Post subject: Re: Using the topic "herb" Reply with quote

Greetings,

We agree over that. The reason why I replied to this and some other threads were, because of Earth Eden's proposal.

I think that was a proposal to divide people who believe Yesus Kristos to be the Divine Saviour. To propose to Christafari to join a sort of "anti-herb league". So then the Christafari-message would be "stop herb" and not "accept Christ".

In spite of my, relatively liberal, stance on herb, I think it is much more important for us all to share the Good Message, to share fellowship through the Hola Spirit. And that message is not "stop herb", but the message is: "accept Yesus Kristos as the Divine Saviour".

Thank you for your reasoning.
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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2003 20:02    Post subject: "Anti-herb league" Reply with quote

First of all,
I would like to apologise for InI absense, but my current studioDUB programming, writing, and a few other circumstances have limited my free time...
Ites and RASpect to all the new and old faces...

Love to Tansobsck, and I have a question...
Respectfully and non judgementally...
Mark, If theI wishes to "witness to rastas," "fellowship with believers," and as Yeshua teaches, "unite fellow christians in love," than discriminating against anyone, Christian or non...Twelve Tribes, or Evangelical...would bring the alienation of a general majority of the very Rastas theI wishes to "convert." Do you agree? For all of InI preach about eliminating prejudice...but instead of skin color have InI moved to doctrine?
By the way InI have abstained from HERB for about 4 months, and still aproach the subject with the same stance.

As a fellow member of STAR, InI have to wonder why all of InI are so focused on this Herb issue and not the Furthering of the gospel through Reggae music...for is that not what STAR stands for...

InI love theI as a brother, and wish Tansoback none but the best...

also, completely aside, InI have to say that InI love what LoZ entertainment has been doing lately, and hope to see mor JahMusic to bring positivity and light to all of the Idren who listen...

PeaceLoveInity
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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2003 20:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

unfortunately many people aren't as open minded as you are
respect to the I!
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