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Irie-in-Christ
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 07:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I once heard of a place called the "Temple of a thousand Buddhas". You can actually go there and choose the type of God whom you worship.



Jonagus, I never said that. That was someone else
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 15:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiyah bun all babylon medicine except for extreme life-threatening cases where expertise is needed over practical wisdom. all medicinal knowledge was stolen out of Afreeca by ones who are very ignorant of how deh temple works. dis is why in dese times western doctors say dem "practice" medicine, because dem have yet to master it. deh body is a perfect machine dat works off of equilibrium and deh I-mmune system, which is deh body's protector against all foreign substances. even Emmanuel said "physician heal thyself" because deh saying goes from anciency dat anyone over deh age of 30 who cannot heal demselves is an idiot.

western medicine only addresses deh symptoms not deh root of any sickness. sickness is dis-ease, meaning deh body is using deh state of sickness to restore homeostasis to deh temple. example is a sprained ankle which causes deh ankle to become stiff and inflexible. we tek dis as "my ankle is sprained" but deh body immobilizes it to protect it from further harm and for general repair. as conscious Christians & Rases it is Ini duty to protect Ini existence pon Mama I-rth everyliving moment of creation, so Ini mus not bow to babylonian medicine in any form or fashion becasue how can deh downpressor in essence really and genuinely help deh ones whom dem downpress?

for every sickness pon I-ration dere isa I-tal remedy to counteract deh condition and return health to where it should be. Sistren Zauditu for deh I's sinuses chop up onions and boil wid spring water. deh longer deh I steeps deh onions deh stronger deh remedy will be. you can add honey to taste but it is better to leave as is so dat you can start to recognize deh tastes of Jah's infinite wisdom of His medicinal plant kingdom. if unu sinuses are draining add some lemon(peel and flesh) to deh above mixture and watch how quickly deh I starts to spit up phlem and mucas. above all other advice, please refrain from all animal flesh, dairy and even plant milks such as nut milks and soy milks becasue dey are still mucas producing. rule of thumb is 1oz. of water for every two pounds deh I dem weigh, to aid deh body in flushing out toxins through deh bowels. dis and plenty of fruit juice, espicially citrus for deh I sinuses becasue it is an expectorant.

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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 16:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zauditu_Sisay_Abaynesh wrote:
Personally I think that it is more than a bit arrogant for theologens to say that if there is no worship of GOD then it is not a religion. The very definition of a religion is "1a. Belief and reverance for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator or govenor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief."


I understand what you are saying about the "arrogant theologians," but consider the point carefully. Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism do not necessarily acknowledge the existence of any divine being or beings (though each can, it is not necessarily an essential tenet of any of them). Are they religions? Not according to the definition you posted, because they do not necessarily have "such belief" in "a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator or governor of the universe."

In spite of that definition, I personally do tend to regard those as religions, though not in the same sense that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are. But if you include Taoism and Buddhism among religions, you have a hard time drawing the line before atheism, which insists it is not a religion.

All I'm saying is: the question is complicated.

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So as I said before, it is the system by which you may gain the spiritual relationship.


I still maintain my original point. For the religions which acknowledge personal deities (e.g. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, some forms of Hinduism, etc.) the term "religion" represents the whole way of life and is inseparable from "spirituality."

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BUT It is often used as a means of enslavement, brutality, and condemnation towards others (and even people within the system).


Yes. This is, of course, forbidden within some religions, like Judaism and Christianity, and is regarded as a horrific sin.

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I know of no Christians that would call themsleves Rasta.


Well, I regard Twelve Tribesman Karl Naphtali Phillpotts as a Christian, and he calls himself a Rasta.
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zauditu_Sisay_Abaynesh wrote:
Also Jonasgus and everyone else, I have nothing against doctors


I didn't mean to imply that you did, sister, and I am sorry if it sounded that way. I just mean that if you need one, please see one!
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 16:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irie-in-Christ wrote:
Jonagus said:
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I once heard of a place called the "Temple of a thousand Buddhas". You can actually go there and choose the type of God whom you worship.



Jonagus, I never said that. That was someone else


It was a direct quote from your post on page 4. If you were quoting someone else, that was unclear.
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 16:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Messian Dread,
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All you do is posting "can selassie forgive sins?" and "is selassie good or bad" and that is about all you can say about Selassie.


Don't blame/accuse Irie-in-Christ for all posts. I want to hear the reasonings on Selassie and why so many hold him so highly. That is why I postered "can Selassie forgive sins?".

perfectloveinH.I.M. and simular people who post with like reasonings/thoughts are who this is dircted to. I really want to know if Selassie ever claimed to forgive sins or heal blind and lame people?

As far as I know he didn't.

The answer is pretty simple, it is soooo frustrating to hear blam blam boom boom fiyah bun etc.......

I want a simple answer, did Selassie ever say he could forgive sins? Did he ever heal a man by telling him to get up and walk?

Yes or no.

But just as always there will not be a yes or no answer.

The answer is no (from what I know) and to admit this would mean any diety that someone thinks Selassie held/was would be deminished.
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 18:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay I stand corrected on the issue of identifying the original poster of this thread. Not a big thing, his profile is a pick-your-choice list anyway I said enough about that.


The reason why your question, warrior, is not answered is the same as the reason why my questions remain unanswered.

You want to show that Selassie can not be Jah and that is why no body answers this question.

I want to show that not all Rastafarians believe Selassie to be Jah, a statement which is a pillar of Christafari (because of their dependency on christian money they have to speak the christianese correct language or Christafari is out of a job) and therefore my questions remain unanswered.
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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2004 18:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Messian,
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You want to show that Selassie can not be Jah and that is why no body answers this question.


Is it wrong for me to do this? I really just want anybody who doesn't/hasn't come to "know" Yesus to tell their reasons for believing otherwise without a rabbit trail.

I do not think what you are "exposing" is wrong. I may not agree with all your information (but that is from lack of knowledge and ignorance of many issues) but I would never call it wrong. I am learning each day and I have grown in many ways even by reasoning on this very site.
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