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Irie-in-Christ
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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2004 16:58    Post subject: Christians ignorant? What about Rasta's?!! Reply with quote

The emphasis on this forum has lately been put on ignorant Christians. Messian Dread and others claim that Christians use the colours and symbols of rasta, without knowing what they mean. Christians have been called ignorant, wannabees, etc. Now I do think there is some truth in this. There are wannabee Christians and some misuse the colours and don't even know what they stand for. But I do think it is now time to put things in the right perspective. It is not my intention to be disrespectfull here. I just want to put things in perspective, because I think it's not right to only call Christians ignorant. There are quite a few ignorant Rasta's as well.

It has been said that wannabee Christians use the green, yellow and red, without knowing what these colours stand for. Well, I know of a lot of Rasta's (even a lot of big reggae artists), that put red on top and green at the bottom. But the Ethiopian flag has green at the top and red at the bottom. Is this not ignorance?
A lot of rasta's either don't know about the statements of Selassie I, or they don't want to know about them. Ignorance? Misuse????
A lot of Rasta's either don't know about the conversion of Bob Marley, or they don't want to know about it. Ignorance? Misuse?

Wannabee Christians steal symbols and colours from Rasta? What about Rasta stealing from Judaism and Christianity (which were before Rastafari!)???

What about Rasta taking so many Scriptures out of their context? Read 'Ethiopia' where ever it says 'Israel'? And so on and on!

My point is this: the story that has been told by some people lately on this forum is one sided. They only talk about so called wannabee Christians that misuse rasta symbology and colours etc. And though they may be right about this, it is very one sided. Because they don't talk about the fact that so many Rasta's (also on this forum) misuse so many biblical things and are very ignorant as well.

Again: it is not my intention to be offensive. But the story of some is too onesided. To some my question would be: exactly how far does your respect for Rasta go? Does it go so far that you are willing to be blind to the misuse and ignorance of many Rasta's???
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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2004 19:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the word Christianity or Rastafarianism. They are called ism skism. Seen?

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It has been said that wannabee Christians use the green, yellow and red, without knowing what these colours stand for. Well, I know of a lot of Rasta's (even a lot of big reggae artists), that put red on top and green at the bottom. But the Ethiopian flag has green at the top and red at the bottom. Is this not ignorance?
A lot of rasta's either don't know about the statements of Selassie I, or they don't want to know about them. Ignorance? Misuse????


Well you see it is Bobo Ashanti that use the Ethiopian colors in that order, red, yellow, then green. And you have to understand that not all who say they are Rasta are truely spriritual. They simply use the image for tourism or to sell something or whatever. It is the same for those like Christafari, they don't place any importance on the meaning of these things. They just use them for the image and thing. Of course these people who use these things for image are not going to know that Haile Selassie I points to Yeshua(Jesus).

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Wannabee Christians steal symbols and colours from Rasta? What about Rasta stealing from Judaism and Christianity (which were before Rastafari!)???


No one stole anything from anyone. These are all symbols of the ancient Israelites of whom we are spiritual descendents. We are made into Israelites (people of God) through the cleansing of Yeshua Ha Mashiach. We all have a right to these symbols. Seen?

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Again: it is not my intention to be offensive. But the story of some is too onesided. To some my question would be: exactly how far does your respect for Rasta go? Does it go so far that you are willing to be blind to the misuse and ignorance of many Rasta's???


What about the the people who call themselves Christian who sexually abuse Children. Is that not ignorance and misuse?

Does everyone who believes in the true Christ have to be called a Christian? What about Messianic Jews?
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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2004 23:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irie-in-x-rist
YOU WROTE:->A lot of Rasta's either don't know about the conversion of Bob Marley, or they don't want to know about it. Ignorance? Misuse?

MM MM YOU CANT REALLY SAY IGNORANCE OF JAH EXISTANCE, BUT IGNORANT OF WHAT FELLOW MAN WANT TO MAKE YOU BE-LIE-F. MAYBE THATS WHEN YOU NOW KNOW ITS A FAITH & NOT BOB MARLEY WE ARE FOLOWING SON!!!

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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2004 23:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Respect Not So Binghi. Great answers. I have come to call those who claim the name of Christ but don't follow the life of Christ, Churchians. They are not really Christians just the same as a Reggae fan who doesn't go deeper in to the livity of Rasta is not really a Rasta. I guess we could call them Reggaians... LOL
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PostPosted: 03 Oct 2004 00:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it is the bobo ashanti that use the Ethiopian colors in that order, red, yellow, then green


and the rainbow that Jah gave after the flood too dont forget, so Jah uses them in that order too.
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PostPosted: 03 Oct 2004 00:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Irie-in-x-rist
YOU WROTE:->A lot of Rasta's either don't know about the conversion of Bob Marley, or they don't want to know about it. Ignorance? Misuse?

MM MM YOU CANT REALLY SAY IGNORANCE OF JAH EXISTANCE, BUT IGNORANT OF WHAT FELLOW MAN WANT TO MAKE YOU BE-LIE-F. MAYBE THATS WHEN YOU NOW KNOW ITS A FAITH & NOT BOB MARLEY WE ARE FOLOWING SON!!!


Warthog, you are being obnoxious. No need to put Irie-in-CHRIST down, he is not your son. That's called downpressin.

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and the rainbow that Jah gave after the flood too dont forget, so Jah uses them in that order too.


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PostPosted: 03 Oct 2004 07:35    Post subject: Balance Reply with quote

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No one stole anything from anyone. These are all symbols of the ancient Israelites of whom we are spiritual descendents. We are made into Israelites (people of God) through the cleansing of Yeshua Ha Mashiach. We all have a right to these symbols. Seen?


I agree with you, not so binghi. It's just that the emphasis lately on this forum has been put this way: Christians 'steal' from Rasta, misuse their symbols and are ignorant. The balance was gone, so I wanted to put things in perspective by not keeping silent about the fact that there ARE a lot of ignorant Rasta's as well, and there is, in a sense, much misuse within Rastafari as well. Seen?
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PostPosted: 03 Oct 2004 07:40    Post subject: Wrong information Reply with quote

Here's another thought: LOZ is being accused of giving wrong information about rastafari. I wonder how many websites that deal with rastafari give wrong information about Selassie I
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