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Ras B
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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2004 23:27    Post subject: FAQ: Should Christians call themselves "Rastas?" Reply with quote

I am not trying to dig up old bones but i noticed that the FAQ recently in question was changed. So it no longer directly states that I-man and those sharing the same views are deceivers and decieved. it now indirectly states that InI are misleading and deceptive. the statement is made that --
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Though there are some rastas that are Christians and some Christians that call themselves rastas,

in my opinion a christian should not call themself a rasta and a rasta should not call themself a christian. a rasta is a rasta and a christian is a christian but that doesnt mean they cannot both believe in the same Messiah, but like i said on the MD thread the two are completely different in livity, mentaity, practice and concept.

it goes on to say--
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How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted for the benefit and furtherance of Rastafari and not Christendom?
fire burn that! what is this about religion or relationship with the Messiah? who cares what furthers a particular religious system? isnt it the true knowledge and faith in the Messiah that is what matters? wether some one calls themself a fulfilled rasta, a messianic Jew , a Messianic Muslim (and yes there is such a thing) or a christian who cares if they have relationship with the messiah and understand and follow the truth of Jah.
on top of that who is it to say and RasTaman cannot be salt and light!?

another thing i dont like--
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. If you look like a Rasta, walk like a Rasta, talk like a Rasta, and call yourself a Rasta, then guess what? You ARE a Rasta.
fire pon that as well i dont care how you look, talk, call, walk, limp or crawl, if one does not live and believe as a Rasta then they are not a rasta

in my opinion these changes didnt really change anything it just made more false statements
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JonaGus
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 00:17    Post subject: Re: FAQ: Should Christians call themselves "Rastas?&quo Reply with quote

Ras B wrote:
I am not trying to dig up old bones but i noticed that the FAQ recently in question was changed.... in my opinion these changes didnt really change anything it just made more false statements


Interesting. I guess this is one of those "Watch out, you might get what you're after" moments: People wanted the FAQ changed, but not like this!

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in my opinion a christian should not call themself a rasta and a rasta should not call themself a christian. a rasta is a rasta and a christian is a christian but that doesnt mean they cannot both believe in the same Messiah, but like i said on the MD thread the two are completely different in livity, mentaity, practice and concept.


I disagree somewhat. I think some Rastas and some Christians are extremely close to each other in all those ways, while others are much farther apart, and some fall in the middle (being similar in some things and different in others).

I am a Christian and do not call myself any different. And I have met some Rastas who were, as far as I could tell, just as Christian as plenty of other Christians I know, if not moreso. I consider those Rastas Christians, whether they want to use the term or not. If such Rastas do want to call themselves Christians, I do not consider that misleading or deceptive in any way.
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 01:08    Post subject: sellassie christian Reply with quote

well, as far as i know ithiopia and its people wanted a christian king on the throne... h.i.m.
so, how can one say a ras isn't christian!!!
i guess the question is did the work of his majesty fullfill the scriptures???
is the book opened? are the seven seals loose?

behold, "the lion of the tribe of judah" is worthy to open the book and loose the seven seals there of...
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MarkMohr
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 07:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ras B, you have a problem with the following phrase in the FAQ section:

How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted for the benefit and furtherance of Rastafari and not Christendom?

Should this then be changed to the politically correct:

How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted as the works of a Selassie worshipper rather than a follower of Christ?

Would this be better. And I did not appreciate your Sizzla like "Fire Burn That." You did know that I wrote this FAQ, so if in the future, you have a problem please e-mail me with your proposed solution. [/b][/u]
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 08:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted for the benefit and furtherance of Rastafari and not Christendom?


Wouldn't it be better saying: "How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted for the benefit of Haile Selassie and not the real Messiah?" ?
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perfectloveinH.I.M.
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 15:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juhok,
who are you to say deh "real" messiah?
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 16:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't WE ALL have a RIGHT to say whom we think the messiah is? I sure do, and I'll say it...Jesus Christ. Blessings. Rootsdr.
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

JuHok wrote:
Wouldn't it be better saying: "How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted for the benefit of Haile Selassie and not the real Messiah?"?


His imperial majesty Haile Selassie is a Christian. Why create a dichotomy between the servant (Selassie) and his Creator (Y'shua)? Any good others do to servant's credit can be directed to the Creator, Y'shua HaMashiach. We know Emperor Selassie would have it so.

But I have more concerns with this:
[quote=MarkMohr]How then can you be the salt and light of the world, when each of your actions and testimonies are being interpreted as the works of a Selassie worshipper rather than a follower of Christ?[/quote]

The Rasta complaint about the FAQ is that the FAQ is the reason that so many Christians assume that Rastas all worship Selassie, when, in reality, so many do not. In other words, there are many Rastas here who believe that their works would not "be interpreted as the works of a Selassie worshipper rather than a follower of Christ" if the FAQ was not misleading people about their beliefs.

I am not a Rasta, but I do see this point. As long as Christians perpetuate the wrong idea that all Rastas worship Selassie, many Rastas will be unjustly misunderstood. It is our responsibility as Christians to be honest, fair, and just, and not to misrepresent Rastafari to our fellow Christians.
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