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aaronjudah
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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2004 03:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am familiar with your activities here on this site. I will respond to you once and then discontinue communication in order to avoid unnecessary conflict.

There are many RasTa who study the Bible in its entirety with an open heart and mind. I am currently taking on line courses from an organ associated loosely with the Metaphysical Bible Dictionary author whose works are discussed in 12 tribes. All students learn and grow. It is evolution of thought.

Dialogue breaks down when people do not take the time to become very familiar with someone else's beliefs. If we are knowledgeable of other cultures and beliefs, we are more likely to have more productive conversations.

Also, I don't know what one verse it is that you are referring to.
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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2004 06:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Familiar with my activities??...Discontinue communication??...Unnecessary conflict??

"On one hand it is very important to understand others and have open communication.....On the other hand I will communicate no further so as to avoid unnecessary confilct"

Wow!...You should practice what you preach!....It seems as if you say one thing and then do another!

I mean after all...What causes a conversation to be productive??.....Certainly not discontinuing communication!..I MEAN COME ON!!

And also...I was not even talking to you when I spoke of quoting only one verse was I??

Don't sit there and hide behind a false pretense of yourself friend!...It is not wise!
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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2004 08:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Growing is great but why do Vernon need to lie because he tells people he never said Haile Selassie I is God. But this is a big lie Because Vernon told me face to face that Haile Selassie is God.

Growing is great as I said but why lie?
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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2004 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Growing is great but why do Vernon need to lie because he tells people he never said Haile Selassie I is God. But this is a big lie Because Vernon told me face to face that Haile Selassie is God.


I don't know about any of this and can't comment on it. I enjoy TTI because I studied the organization and read K. Naphtali's book. Also, I encountered some good people from TTI. I like the culture and I like the materials that they recommend (Bible, Meta Bible Dictionary, Garvey, etc.).
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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2004 16:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

gabre, out of my own search for insight into spiritual matters, where is it revealed that here is a need to accept the Messiah a second time?
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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2004 16:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

MM, your reasoning here doesnt make alot of sense to me. i dont know Gad personally but it seems that a man would not go through all the dissention and problems that he has because of the doctrine and belief of twelve tribes unless he believed it himself.
so lets assume you are right and he does believe Selassie is Jah then despite that Jah used him to bring the truth to the public.
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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2004 01:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've encountered many times fierce criticism towards any positive mention of the 12 tribes, or Gad. It happens often when I mention the fact that the ttoi reveals on radio in Jamaica what is the theology concerning our beloved Saviour, and that the Emperor Haile Selassie is not Yesus second comming. Then it's allways about Gadman and his behaviour.

Ler's take a look at the behaviour of so many others who are revered because of their stance within Rastafari whgen it comes to identifying Selassie as Jah or not. It's not much better....

So let's focus on the doctrine. Not on the private lives. Even of the farisees Yesus said that we are to look at their teachings.

When I critisize Lion of Zion, and I do that, I never lower myself to the point in which I have to discredit someone's personal integrity and yes souvereignity. I stick with the points of critique and they are about doctrine.

I've heard things which are never even spoken of on the Internet in public, but the ones who have been or are still in TTOI do stress the fact that there are many "Godly" people in it. Still these people stress the fact that it is about the doctrine.

So now we have the situation in which the leader of the biggest Rastafarian organization says that Yesus is yet to return, that Selassie is not Kristos.

A situation which is in no way corresponding with the definition of Rastafari as stated in the -admittingly wrong yet still not updated with correct info- LOZFAQ.
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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2004 06:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOZ has not shown on this websight a desire to correct or clarify its views on Rastafari. A whole thread dedicated to "Christafari Doctrine" and I feel that this opportunity to clarify and correct thier stance on ANYTHING was really neglected by LOZ as a whole. This is a statement that comes from someone who owns and enjoys Christafari music. I cannot say that I have not felt at least mildly disappointed.
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