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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 03:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be interested in this article, also. With all of the RasTa/Ethio symbolism, I am surprised that there is not more reasoning about RasTa, Afrika, etc. from the band.

Posting on the board would not be a good idea. That would be target practice for some. Some essays and articles would probably be helpful for all of those individuals that view Christafari as their main source of RasTa info.

Isn't Mr. Mohr writing a book? Maybe all of this info will be included in the book.
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 03:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I know MM writes a book. Without getting too different-topic, I do agree when people who question the FAQ to more or less sit and wait since the answer is "no longer do these faq's carry the current opinnions and stances of LOZ", book or not, these faqs must be updated. Not everyone reads the book.
The FAQ is where people find the doctrines of Christafari.
I will be writing about these matters indeed.
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 07:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gabre

You don't know which verse I am talking about?...Well you are the one that brought up the subject about Christ coming with a new name.

Do you know what that shows me?....That shows me that you are not studying the Bible for yourself....You are just listening to man and taking man's word for it....That is not wise friend!

Since you are the one that brought up the subject.....You should know exactly which verse I am talking about.

Let me ask you the exact same question....Which verse are you talking about?


No sir....I am not trying to discourage believers in Jesus Christ.....I myself am a believer!....So I really don't know what you mean there.

Let us discuss this without getting upset at each other.....Things are cool with me.....I'm not trying to be hard here......Let us discuss this in peace!!
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 07:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

MD

You know...There is a BIG difference in a doctrine and a belief.

I would advise you to learn the difference!

There is no such thing as a Christafari doctrine....So why are you trying to make one up?
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 07:20    Post subject: The Doctrine of Christafari Reply with quote

Well, the word "Doctrine,"simply means "Teaching." The following is what I teach in Christafari and in the Gathering. It is not a list of what I do NOT teach--that post would fill volumes.
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WE TEACH that there is one God, eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. (Genesis 1:1,26; Matthew 28:19; John 1:1-3, 4:24; Acts 5:3-4; Romans 1:20; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Ephesians 4:5-6)


WE TEACH that Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, and born of the Virgin Mary, and is fully God and fully man. (Matthew 1:18-25; Luke 1:26-38; Romans 9:5; Titus 2:13)


WE TEACH that the Bible is the complete, inspired Word of God, without error in its original manuscripts. The Bible is our supreme and final authority in faith and life. (Isaiah 40:8; Matthew 5:18, 24:35; 2 Timothy 3:16; Hebrews 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20-21)


WE TEACH that man was created in the image of God, that he sinned and thereby incurred not only physical death but also spiritual death which is separation from God, and that all human beings are born with a sinful nature, and become guilty sinners in thought, word and deed. (Genesis 1:26-27; 3:1-24; Romans 3:25, 5:12-18; 1 John 1:


WE TEACH that the Lord Jesus died for our sins according to the Scriptures as a representative and substitutionary sacrifice; that He bodily rose victorious from the grave on the third day; and that all who believe in Him are justified on the basis of His shed blood. (Matthew 20:28, 28:6; John 3:16; Romans 3:24-26, 5:1, 10:9; 1 Corinthians 15:3, 14;2 Corinthians 5:21; Ephesians 1:7; 1 John 2:2)


WE TEACH the personal and imminent return of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Acts 1:11; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)


WE TEACH that all who come by grace through faith to accept the Lord Jesus Christ are born again of the Holy Spirit and thereby become children of God forever. (John 1:12-13, 3:3-5; Ephesians 2:8-9; James 1:18; 1 Peter 1:23)
WE TEACH that while without faith it is impossible to please God, the possession of faith does not ensure health or prosperity. (Luke 9:22-27; 2 Corinthians 11:23-31, 12:7-10; Philippians 1:29-30; 2 Timothy 3:8-12; Hebrew 11:6, 32-40)


WE TEACH the bodily resurrection of the just and unjust, the everlasting joy of the saved and the everlasting conscious punishment of the lost. (Matthew 25:31-46; John 5:28-29; 1 Corinthians 15:12-57; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Revelation 20:4-6, 11-15)


WE TEACH that all Christians are baptized by the Holy Spirit and permanently indwelt by Him at the point of salvation. The filling of the Holy Spirit is meant to be a continuous experience for the believer through submission to His controlling authority and power. (John 14:16, 15:5; Romans 6:3-5, 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 5:15-21)


WE TEACH that the body of Christ, the church, is composed of interdependent members who are born again, each having received from the Holy Spirit gifts which are to be exercised for the building up of the whole body. No one gift is given to all believers nor indicates regeneration, filling, or baptism with the Holy Spirit. (Romans 12:4-8; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13; Ephesians 2:14-20, 4:4-16)


WE TEACH baptism (by submersion in water) in the name of the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. Baptism is not necessary for salvation. It is an outward demonstration of the individual's inward conviction and a matter of obedience to our Lord. We teach that Christ commanded His church to baptize believers as a proclamation of their faith and identification with Him and His church, and to celebrate communion as a living memorial of His redemptive death and as a reminder of present fellowship with Christ and His body. (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 2:28-47, 8:36-40, 10:47, 18:8; Romans 6:3-5; 1 Corinthians 11:23-29)

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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 07:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark you are exactly right!

My only point was and is this:....There is only ONE doctrine..And that is the doctrine of YHVH.

Anything else is just a belief.
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 07:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

After all...God(YHVH) is the ONLY teacher.

We are just the students!
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2004 08:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gabre

Revalation 19:12-13

You will find your answer in verse 13......Don't just read verse 12 and stop there......Continue reading on to the next verse......AND HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD.

There is your answer!.....It is NOT rasta or Haile Selassie......It is THE WORD OF GOD.

There is alot more to say about this subject....I will continue later.

I am just curious Gabre....What verse were you talking about?

Let's keep it cool!...PEACE!
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