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Irie-in-Christ
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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2004 16:50    Post subject: Lamb and lion Reply with quote

MD, this point in your 'theology' I strongly strongly disagree with. The thought that John wanted to compare Jesus to an ethiopian emperor when he mentioned the title 'lion of judah' is absurd. I am not sure if BC these titles were already being used for ethiopian emperors/leader. I am also not sure if John knew about there existence, taken that they did exist. But even if this title then already was being used, why should Jesus be compared with an emperor from Ethiopia??? What should we learn from them that makes us understand more about who Jesus is? Read good commentaries on Revelation, read the Greek, read and study the context and also the old testament, and please understand that this thought is (rastafarian?) wishfullthinking. In a sense it might a nice thought, but it is totally unacceptable, taken the context and background of this part of scripture. Judah is the son of Jacob, and in this line is David, and Jesus is also in this line of Judah. That's it. Jesus is being compared with a lion (and at other times with a lamb), and he stands in the line of the tribe of Judah. That's it. Jesus is NOT being compared with ethiopian emperors in Revelation! Take it from a theologian. But I already know you won't take it at all Respect!
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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2004 17:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

MD,
Yes I see what your point (fact or "myth" I don't know). Yet don't you think that it is sort of demeaning (so to speak) to compare YESUS with Ethiopian rulers instead of realizing that Jahn was refering to YESUS as THE Lion of Judah not..... A Lion of Judah.
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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2004 19:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haile Selassie is known as The Lion of Judah so please keep deh facts straight, Ini will not let any tek anything away from deh King of Kings.
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PostPosted: 23 Sep 2004 20:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

PerfectLovein HIM: Yesus also told his disciples THEY (and therefore we) are the Light of the World and the Salt of the Earth too.

Irie, please re-read the paragraph and keep in mind you also call Jah your FATHER. Why are you then not asking why Jah compares Himself with a human? I know the answer. I also know that your remarks have all been adressed allready in the parahraph itself.

Warrior, like Yesus called Jah THE FATHER and not A FATHER, okay?
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PostPosted: 23 Sep 2004 21:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now, fortunately Jah does not compare Himself with the "President" but with the Ethiopian King.


Why is it fortunate? Were all the Ethiopian Kings perfect?

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Warrior, like Yesus called Jah THE FATHER and not A FATHER, okay?


Your own words contradict, don't you think so? All mankind can relate/overstand "FATHER" but not all can understand L O J. I do overstand who the Lion Of Judah is by His earthly blood line,Isaiah prophecy etc..... Not because it is in relation to Ethiopian Kings.

So only those in Ethiopia can relate to what Jahn said in Revelation?

No, I don't fall for that line of reasoning.
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PostPosted: 23 Sep 2004 23:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings all in the name of His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie. New to the forum, give thanks.
Ras Tafari was indeed crown King of Kings, Lord of Lords conquering Lion of the tribe of Yudah, Elect of God, Imanuel, King of Israel. These titles pre dates the so called man of Galilee. Its a very, very ancient tradition in Africa to crown a King with Diefic titles. The king is suppose to rule with God in his heart ( God in man or mind). Its with this and other reasonings why we Haile the King. We have the earthly runnings of His Majesty to look to. Its not based on guess work.

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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2004 06:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum Jahted! But to give someone godly titles, doens't make someone godly/divine, I think. And what about all the other emperors before Selassie I? Were they divine as well, just because they had the same titles?

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Your own words contradict, don't you think so? All mankind can relate/overstand "FATHER" but not all can understand L O J. I do overstand who the Lion Of Judah is by His earthly blood line,Isaiah prophecy etc..... Not because it is in relation to Ethiopian Kings.

So only those in Ethiopia can relate to what Jahn said in Revelation?

No, I don't fall for that line of reasoning.


Me neither! Well said warrior.
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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2004 07:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

So then why are you using the Ethiopian colours and name your sound after Abuna Yesehaq?
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