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Haile Selassie: good or bad man?
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warthog
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2004 22:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonagus you wrote

Survey the doctrines of different Rastas and you find that Rastafari is clearly more than one religion.

TO me its nothing like a religion . To support those who say rastafari is from creation, we all conciously know everything begun with JAH. Man came up with religion which was a way to reach JAH but over time this idea has come to fail. Man begun to wroship religion more than his creator e.g. statement like "christafarians worship the right god more than rastas/ i'm a baptist what are you......''. The devil has infiltrated mans spirit through the idea of religion. SA TAN has used religion to retard mans spirituall growth, forcing them to relly on the little spirituall knowledge of JAH HE HAS ACQUIRED & LEAVE NO ROOM FOR MORE, PASSING ON FROM GENERATION TO.........

I-man rasta has come to overstand that religion is stagnant( having no room to recognise the flow of reality) e.g in X-ristianity Cause of arrogantly insisting the bible contains the only books about JAH, they tend to stretch the truth into some crazy fantasy directions, some you dont even want to hear or know.

When you ras-wise come to overstand how religion has destroyed mans ability to accept that JAH CAN CHANGE THE FLOW OF EVENTS DEPENDING ON HOW MANKIND BEHAVES. With my blame on religious thinking, this means that:- MAN HAS FORGOTTEN THAT JAH & NOT ANY WRITTEN BOOK ( which can in many cases be only understood) IS ULTIMATELY SPIRITUALLY IN-CHARGE OF THE JUDGEMENT OUTCOME OF WORLD EVENTS.

Maybe cause of religious thinking, thats why many of the so call themselves christians can't decide whether black-slave reparations & repatriation is jah-morally right they would rather in their expense do it to the russian jews, whos lineage they cant really proof, AHA! Cause black slavery is not written in the bible some say?? ???

jonagus you wrote:-
But Rastafari is derived from Judaism & Christianity, and Rastas do those things.

For something spirituall & unreligious like rasta lets just say for the sake & our love for humanity we embrace in sharing alot of (ONE-JAH) ONESS spirituall attributes, We would have done otherwise but we go were JAH wants us to go.


bless!!
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2004 22:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1 Corinthians 12:25
That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.


deh absence of racism, classism, sexism in addition to schisms which is a break or fracture does apply to deh Rastafari movement because dis Ras buns all of dese. in deh beginning dere was Jah and He was of one like mind wid Adam, until Adam violated by transgressing. from I-ration I-tes Adam was a Rastaman and had no other choice but to be one because there were no other options until deh'evil (devil) offered contrary options which divided deh uniform mind of Jah and His I-ration.

dis Ras cites up H.I.M. and acknowledges dat He is deh culmination of "one Black mind" which is deh opportunity for hue-manity to forward back to deh original mindset, because in deh beginning -

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Genesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
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dis darkness was nothing but deh darkness dat deh world beholds on deh temples of Afreecans and displaced Afreecans, which is why Afreecans can produce everyother hue but for all other hues it is impossible to produce deh root, which is darkness. dis is deh explanation for "one black mind" and how much it is relevant. now pon dis subject Ini agree wid both because both 12 tribes and JonaGus are correct but jest in different ways. deh term of one black mind means dat deh livity of Rastafari was, is and shall be evermore because it was there in deh beginning wid Jah and His wife "wiseness."

for Ini, where JonaGus is correct is the fact dat deh divinity of Haile Selassie I is acheived through deh scriptures of deh Torah and deh I-ble, which are both Judaic and Messianic texts. Ini know dat ini am going to catch a earfull but let deh word soundfiyah commence, bless!

Hail H.I.M.inperfectlove
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2004 22:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonagus

sorry for the wrong click of the front color. HERE i come again:

you wrote:
But Rastafari is derived from Judaism & Christianity, and Rastas do those things.
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For something spirituall & unreligious like rasta lets just say for the sake & our love for humanity we embrace in sharing alot of (ONE-JAH) ONESS spirituall attributes, We would have done otherwise but we go were JAH wants us to go.

BLESS!!
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2004 23:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

warthog wrote:
jonagus you wrote

Survey the doctrines of different Rastas and you find that Rastafari is clearly more than one religion.

TO me its nothing like a religion .


I understand that you, like so many people, object to the word "religion" and consider it evil. I don't consider it a bad word, personally. But whether you prefer the word "religion," "relationship," "spirituality," "dharma," "way of life," "livity," or whatever, my point is that "Rastafari" is not one single entity. Rastas have taught me that Rastas have very different doctrines and beliefs regarding some major issues, and that's all I meant.
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2004 23:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

perfectloveinH.I.M. wrote:
from I-ration I-tes Adam was a Rastaman and had no other choice but to be one because there were no other options until deh'evil (devil) offered contrary options which divided deh uniform mind of Jah and His I-ration.


Many religious groups claim the same thing for themselves. Mormons say Adam was a Mormon and there was no other option, Muslims say Adam was a Muslim and there was no other option, etc. etc.

You may believe that Adam walked upright in a good relationship with Jah from the beginning, and I agree 100%. You may also believe that his way of life is entirely consistent with a true Rasta way of life, if not exactly the same, and I would say "it could be." But he was not explicitly a "Rasta" because there was not yet any man named "Ras Tafari" to name his way of life after. Adam could only be a "Rasta" in the way that Justin called Socrates (who lived before Y'shua became man) a "Christian": you believe his life was consistent with the life of a Rastaman, at least inasmuch as he was able.

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for Ini, where JonaGus is correct is the fact dat deh divinity of Haile Selassie I is acheived through deh scriptures of deh Torah and deh I-ble, which are both Judaic and Messianic texts. Ini know dat ini am going to catch a earfull but let deh word soundfiyah commence, bless!


Respect for taking such a risk, even if I don't agree that Selassie is Jah.
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