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Teh drumma 4 Jah



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PostPosted: 10 Mar 2004 02:26    Post subject: Help me please, Dreadlock approval question! Reply with quote

Well, I goto a non-denominational Christian church, and my Pastor, pulled me aside after church and told me that my dreadlocks were not good. She said that " familiar" spirits can jump on me, due to the fact that dreadlocks originated in Jamaica.

So, I was forced to cut my dreads off, because my mom agreed with my Pastor. Note- I am 15 years old.

So now, I need some advice on what I should tell my parents or so forth.

Also, my mom doesn't like the fact that Bob Marley was a rastafarian, or that his family is still, so she was telling me, she won't allow eme to hear his music. Help!
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PostPosted: 10 Mar 2004 03:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the least of it all, respect your parents, even if they are being miss-led by such a belief.
If they are open to debate, or talk, you can tell them the fact that Bob Marley joined the Orthodox Church before he died. Thereby haveing to deny Haile Selassie as JAH.
As for the dread thing, you can point out to them that Samson was a nazarite(Numbers 6:3-6). as well as a good bit of other people in the Bible. So one could argue that dreads are in the bible, to say the least. Anyhow, there people on here that can explain this all better than I ever could, so, I'll end this post now.

Shalom, and blessings.
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PostPosted: 10 Mar 2004 11:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that your pastor has some odd theology in this area which is incorrect.

However, as Messenjah says, you need to respect your parents. But you should be able to reason with them respectfully and talk to them fully about the issues involved.

There are some other threads on the forum here about locks, so if you do some searching you should find plenty of discussion about it which you might find helpful.

if you have specific questions, or ones about the points raised by your pastor or parents, ask away and I am sure people will try to help.

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PostPosted: 10 Mar 2004 20:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you must first of all; honor your Father and Mother. It seems (no disrespect) that your pastor is mis-guided. It is not outside appearence it is the heart.

So it comes down to your heart/motives.

If you or anyone else has locks because dreads are "cool" then your motives are wrong to begin with. Pray and ask GOD to show you why locks are to be a part of your life. Then continue with love and respect talking with your parents about it.


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Also, my mom doesn't like the fact that Bob Marley was a rastafarian, or that his family is still, so she was telling me, she won't allow me to hear his music.


I am a father of two children and I used to have over 20 different BOB albums from UK, U.S. Jamaica etc...

But after I came to know CHRIST I realized that many of Bob's songs were about rastafari being earths rightful ruler and that he gave praise to a "man" and not GOD. And that wasn't what I wanted to fill my head with. Now reading "Catch a Fire" and other books about Bob I know he was christian rooted and before his death he did deny Haille Selassie as Diety. But the image that is portrayed by the Marley family is that of rasta,herb and fame.

I have seen Ziggy and his sisters on Maybeline commercials and on the front page of High Times. Now where are the priorities of these performers? Definately not giving their spiritual life priority!!

Anyways there is sooo much good gospel reggae now and my point is that I would not like my children to listen to anything that is directing praise towards man, herb etc....

But when my children are of the age (mentally and physically) I will know that the decisions they make will be theirs and not mine.

For what it is worth - that is my response.
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Farruk



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PostPosted: 11 Mar 2004 11:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreadlocks is just a hairstyle that was copied by Rasta to be different from "Babylon".
It's origin in the Bible is from the Nazarites, but who can follow the true vows of the Nazarites and not just the hair style. Here is what the Bible says:
Numbers 6:1: "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2: Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:
3: He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
4: All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.
5: All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no rasor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his
head grow.
6: All the days that he separateth himself unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body.
7: He shall not make himself unclean for his father, or for his mother, for his brother, or for his sister, when they die: because the consecration of his God is upon his head.
8: All the days of his separation he is holy unto the LORD."
Can you follow that or do you just want to be "cool"?
sallam
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PostPosted: 11 Mar 2004 12:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

A place of agreement!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: 11 Mar 2004 12:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11 Mar 2004 15:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds very familiar to me, when i was around eight years old i has an urge to locks my hair, but in our house hold it was totaly out of the question. After leaving home it was not a very strong desire to locks in me for many years, eventually when i did decide to locks my hair as a concenting adult i still faced much oposition from people and no more than the members of my own family and some loved ones.

My upbringing was rooted in the church and by no means was i void of the fear of the lord, and was not baptised until some conciderable time after i had locks on my head.

I faced resentment from all manner of people and it really hurt me at times how mankind would judge me, even by absolute strangers who would look on me but presumed the worse.

And dispite me still being around my family and friends, it was as though i had become a different person all because i had locks on my head.
And things where presumed about me, much as is to this day.

To me my hair which it is, is a personal thing how can anyone explain that better, even god says I AM.

I am not dictated by it and i am free in christ, people as normal tend to steriotype to easily at times.


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But after I came to know CHRIST I realized that many of Bob's songs were about rastafari being earths rightful ruler and that he gave praise to a "man" and not GOD. And that wasn't what I wanted to fill my head with. Now reading "Catch a Fire" and other books about Bob I know he was christian rooted and before his death he did deny Haille Selassie as Diety. But the image that is portrayed by the Marley family is that of rasta,herb and fame.
I have seen Ziggy and his sisters on Maybeline commercials and on the front page of High Times. Now where are the priorities of these performers? Definately not giving their spiritual life priority!!




For years the Ethiopian Orthodox church refused to baptise Rastas on account of their belief, they insisted that in order for rasta to be baptised that they should cut of their locks.

I do not believe that christ is going to refuse anyone who comes to him and certainly not because of the fashion of the hair on a ones head.

Another point i would like to pick up on is that warrior said that they Rastas worshiped a man, lets be absolutely clear about this Jesus Christ of Nazereth was a man and according to the gospel when they worshiped him, some doubted his ligitamacy, just because he was in flesh.

And please let some one correct me if i am wrong but i have no record of Bob marley denying his faith or specifically the deity if at all of Haile Selassie 1st.

And finally may i add, i dont think his children are really carrying forward his fame, but again Bob was Bob and wh's really like him.

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