Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Poland- doing God's Will
|Posted: 27 Mar 2004
13:42 Post subject:
|And so it a New world order
"translation", so what.|
BECAUSE IT IS THE ANTICHRIST
Opps, I put the quotes around the wrong
thing. I ment "New World Order" translation. What you don't
understand is that just because it has errors doesn't make it a NWO
bible/translation. KJV has errors too. Oh, and just to be clear: in
my previous post, I wasn't trying to say that the nwo is ok. I agree
that it is wrong.
|If it translates a scripture or word
wrong, don't use it. You should always compare the bible
with other just to make sure there is no changes to
You should study the poriginal language manuscripts or
Unfortuatly, most people don't have a
concordance/dictionary for greek and hebrew around them.
|Why? Because if you knew about King
James, you would know that some historians believe that
he was GAY (a HOMO)! So what, just because he might have
been a homo, your going to ban the KJV of the
Ofcourse I know what "hisatorians believe. So? They also
believe that your father is a monkey. Anyway, James didn't do
the translation. Others did. It's still the best translation
YOU have in YOUR language.
Actually the historians are people like you
that believe in the bible, but think every little thing makes it
wrong. Those historians were christains not evolutionist. Yes, I
know he didn't do the translation himself, he had a team of people
he commanded to translate it. You can find the whole history in it's
preface. And yes, I agree this is the best translation.
|Secondly, you obviously have a shallow
knowledge about satanist. You ever thought that maybe
their is more than one group of satanists? Could it be
No. It's a pyramid system seen. On the
"top" you have lucifer or satan. Then at the bottom you have
all these (as they are called in jargon) 'usefull idiots'. The
more you are initiated, the higher you go in the pyramid.
Low-level minions are unaware of the top and who runs it. But
not the other way around. It's one system. The idiots at the
bottom, who run around in gothic and upside down crosses do so
because they think that the ones who run this planet are
"christian". They have no idea that the ones they are
fighting, the leaders of nations, are also their leaders.
this is true. That is why we (as in christains) generally go for the
"usefull idiots" because they don't really know what they are doing.
The have a easier chance of geting saved then a leader.
|And we aren't talking about the people
that you have on your website. |
You did not check it. That's obvious.
So here is from the book of Bohemian Club, which is a place of
satan rituals, some of their members:
Actually i did. That is obvious when i say
what you quoted. How would i know that you had people/pics on your
forum if i didn't go to it?
|Get it thru your head, just because you
wear black around them doesn't mean your practicing
their religon. If you are wearing their symbols, that is
different. That is not right. But if you are wearing
black, that doesn't make you
That's a complete distraction what you
are doing. You think you can apply the scriprute in
Corinthians to "become a satanist with the satanists" andf I
say it says no such thing. It's a distraction to speak about
clothing and all that when speaking about satanism. Do you
start to speak about burka's when you talk about Islam? I'm
not even sure if you know the word! Ofcourse not. When you
speak about a different religion, a worship to a different
"god", you're not speaking about
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KJV
of the scripture i posted. It didn't say "become a -------- with a
--------". It said "unto the ------ I became as a ------". Not with,
as. Clear. As doesn't make you something. Tim didn't become a Jew
because he got circumsied.
|And a reminder: I wasn't the one that
brought up satanists, you did. So keep your comments. I
wasn't comparing satanists as rastas or visa
Yes you do for you are stating that
Rastafari is a religion worshipping a different god then the
God of the Bible. So I am stating that when you are in that
particula thought, you can not apply theat corinthians
scripture to "biblically justify" having uncombed hair on your
head and call it "dreads to reach dreads". For in your mind
set Rastas wear dreadlocks to worship a different god. You
would be indeed like a satanist wearing a satanic symbol.
Stating that rasta's don't worship the same
god as us doesn't compare you to satanist. I'm not saying "you see
satanist do this and rasta do this, can you see the similarity?"
That is comparing. I didn't do that. And it's not my "mind set" that
rastas wear dreadlocks to worship a different god. I know this is
not true and you confirmed this later on in your post that some
don't have dreads.
|But nobody cares about a strict application of
scripture. They use new age translations because then the
brains do not have to work so hard, they think they are
biblically correct where in fact they are only political
correct, and many Christians see this and condemn it as
"conformed to the world". And so it is! But these are wiped
away as "conservatives" and "ludicrous".
don't even care about application of scripture. That is unless you
can tell me how to use 1Cor 9:19-23 to reach non christains.
|And my reasons are biblical unlike
yours. You have NO biblical standing why wearing dreads
to outreach to rastas is wrong.
I have. For one, the way you are doing it, really is
manipulation and imposing. When you say you wear dreads to
"reach" dreads, and I presume you speak about true dreads here
not the barbersaloon yuppies, you are manipulating and you are
an imposter. Why? Because you are not a dread yourself! I know
that many, many, many Rastafarians see right through this and
they only see it as a confirmation that this western
christianity really is
And what Tim was a imposter and manipulator?
Peter? Paul? ect.
|When you are a true dread, you know you ARE
dread. You are dread because this is how JAH created you.
I don't know
if your refering to a pychodelic defention for just rastas, but the
bible says to rejoice and to only fear god. Be happy.
|Your just saying "your using it out of
context!" while i clearly showed you how you can compare
wearing dreads as the samething as paul making tim get
circumised. They are both outward things that people
look at. |
looking at circumcised penises? What are you talking about?
Hmm... you can laugh out loud as long as you
want be i think Jews did:
|Ge 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall
keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man
child among you shall be circumcised. |
11 And ye shall
circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token
of the covenant betwixt me and you.
12 And he that is
eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child
in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought
with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy
money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in
your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
14 And the
uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not
circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he
hath broken my covenant.
If you read the 1 Cor 9 scripture, you would
know it said that the Jews knew Timothy's dad was greek. Why would
it mention that if they didn't care about who was from where unless
they cared if he was circumsised? Paul was not "right" in their eyes
because he believe in christanity. The only difference between Paul
and Tim was that he was by blood a gentile. And all gentiles back
then didn't get circumsised. They knew that. And Paul knew that they
knew. That why Timothy was circumsised. Paul knew that they would
say something to the effect that "we can't accept Tim because
according to the law he must be circumsised to be God's child" and
if Tim wasn't circumsised, the Jew would have give no ear to what
they had to say.
Now the question is WHY did Paul choose Tim
and make him go thru the hassel and pain of getting circumsied
instead of just using Peter or another jew that converted? Because
he wan'ted to make the point to the Jews and people like you that
the who and the from where and the outside apperance of man doesn't
matter to God anymore. You can get circumsied or you can wear dreads
and it's not going to make you closer or futher away from God. Jesus
doesn't care about the outside of man. He's worried about the
[quote]Now, okay. Seriousness.
A true dread is
not someone who does not speak to people who have combved hair. That
is an absurdity and sign of ignorance. A dread stands between the
ballheads and other people with uncombed hair. I don't care if you
comb your hair or not. If you make sense I listen, if you don't make
sense I don't listen. [quote]
The problem with that is that
the only people that "make sense", are the people saying your right
|I most definitely do not respect "dreads" who
are no dreads.|
Oh you can say that, but that the same thing
as me saying i don't respect rastas that think they are allright.
Now of course, i'm wrong according to you, but the point is not
that. The point is that that is what you are doing. Your judging
people by their outside appearance.
|The jews looked at wether people were
circumsied. Does a rasta looks at a person with short
hair equally or lesser then when someone that has dreads
also talks to them? That awnser would best be someone
that is outreaching to rastas. Like Jah Pickany. Jah
Pickany, do you think you would be equally accepted if
you had short hair when talking to people that have
I think I am one of the persons to ask
such a question. I answered some of it in the above paragraph.
As for Christafari, they do realize that they were on the
wrong way because they have changed their "focus" from Rastas
to "universalists" or "new agers". Besides, look at their (and
JP's) concert agenda, you will see most of the performances
are in some Christian event or Church. No problem with that,
but you can hardly speak about people who are "reaching out
to" outside-church people. This is also clear when you read
why Christafari does not use the Name of JAH anymore in their
new releases. Their influence in the Rastafarian Communities
all over the world have not been that big, but instead their
influence in the Christian World is.
Actually i purposly asked Jah Pickany, not
you. Why? Because i know that you think that
christains-that-think-rastas-are-wrong are wrong and "imposters" and
"idiots", ect. You don't care what the response of others are. Your
in your own little world of people who don't accept rastas are
wrong. Period. The rest of your statement is a opinion. Oh and that
last statement is so true. It seems as rastas don't care anymore
about the truth. 10 years ago, it was safe to say that for the most
part reggae was generally for rastas only. Now more and more
non-rastas listen to reggae also so that could be the reason on not
focusing on rastas as much as before.
|Not every Rasta wears dreads, by the way. That
alone should answer your question. |
Study on. You'll see
that most christians with lox do it to "look cool". If they
give any spiritual meaning to their hair it's the aburd
interpretation of the Corinthians Scripture. But it's only, in
their own words also, "a biblical justification" of a
hairstyle. And this justification is applied in situations as
described by the original poster of this thread. Now then, do
you honostly think that the guy's "pastor" would take that
argument serious? No he wouldn't. He would crush it down and
the guy who wrote the original post would be left totally
to let you know there is NO "biblical justification" for to wear
dreadlocks. For christains and rastas alike. It doesn't say were are
to be nazarites or the such. There is no scripture saying we should
have dread. Infact it say the opposite. It says men are better of
with short/no hair then with long hair. Of course I know it say
later that there is no law or custom to inforce that men should have
short/no hair. You might use a old testament reference but that just
makes you a follower of the OT. You might use John the B as a
reference but that just makes you a follower of John not christ. So
don't give this "they are wrong" stuff, because you have no standing
for your dreads either. Get it thru your head: God didn't make you
wear dreads or wants you to. God doesn't care about the out ward
apperance of man. That includes your hair.
|And somebody laughs very hard. And
it's not me.|
Yep, and it can be the very oposite
person you think is
Oh yes, I forgot all about
Oh don't worry. I wasn't refering to me. Well
actually you should be worring.
|By doing what you are describing,
you are not only totally wrong in applieing
certain scriptures, you are making a fool and a
clown of yourself, and a mockery of the gospel.
not making a mockery of the gospel. I did not say "Go
with the satanist and do their cerimonies". And perhaps
Timothy was made a fool and clown of himself in front of
the Jews. Maybe not. It is the same for us. We might be
made a fool or we might be accepted. It depends on the
When you say Rastafari is na religion
worshipping a different God then the God of the Bible (Timothy
Situation not about a different God), then you can not apply
the Corinthians Scripture. When you do, you would be doing the
same as "being a satanist with the satanists". I am NOT saying
Rastafari is a religion worshipping a different god then the
Christian JAH, so I am NOT making the comparance. I am only
showing why you can not apply the scripture. I was hoping you
and others would understand then why it would be impossible to
apply the scripture, but instead you go philosophising how it
would match the situation. Unbelievable shocking. Really.
spare me your shock. Simple anwser to this. If rastas do believe in
the same God as christains, then i would rightly be comparing you to
the Jews. If rastas don't believe in the same God, then i would
rightly compare you to the law-less. Either way this scripture is
also refing to your religion also. I'm going to igore the satanist
point because i already state above my counter to that. Get it: just
because everything isnot listed doesn't mean it not for them. And
there is a difference between rastas and christains is simply that a
rasta wont say he a christain because he has differences. The real
fact is that a rasta don't want to be called christains because
their aim is not to be christ-like as christain means. Christ didn't
smoke pot or the equivalent, nor did he wear dreads. He might have
had long hair but that doesn't make him dreaded. Christ didn't need
any earthly substense to get to meditate or think about stuff.
|And then they will be taken good
care off in the churchical system. They will be
tauight how to listen to the preacher and
"respect" the "ones placed above him" until he
gets sick of that and leaves the Christian Faith
as a desillusioned, bitter man.
statement just shows how rebelious you are. And how open
you are to the word.
I am very open to the Word, YESUS
KRISTOS IS THE WORD. I Read the Bible too. Because the Bible
is the written word of JAH which is a lamp for my foot. I am
born again on august 6, 1985 as an 18 year old bwaay. I love
my Saviour very much, for it is because of YESUS KRISTOS the
INCARNATED JAH that I live, that I am able to type this, that
I am who I am and that I go to ZION HEIGHTS which is the
DWELLING PLACE OF JAH. And when I reach there, I will see
Haile Selassie too. We will both sing praises to the Almighty
Until that time, I live here and I observe,
analyse and warn people to think for themselves. To trust JAH
and to pray to the Almighty in the Name of YESUS KRISTOS.
JAHOSHUA HA MASHIACH. JESUS THE MESSIAH. JEZUS DE MESSIAS.
I'm born and raised in the christian world, my father
is a 75 year old preacherman who still preaches every week
almost. I have a lot of respect for him. He taught me to think
for myself. Not to trust a "pastor" just because he says he's
a "pastor". JAH gave me brains too. Not so that any system can
fill it, but so that I can develope myself.
that some call it "rebelious". Especially in cults, and
strickt groups where there is much "shepherding". Where people
are literally been told WHAT to think.
I'm not a rebel
against YESUS KRISTOS. I do not rebel against HIS BOOK of
BOOKS. I do rebel against mental
Then perhaps you know that the word pastor
means shepherd. What is the POINT of a shepherd?
And if your
so open to the word, then can you tell me why their was respect to