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DO YOU CARE ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE FACTS?
OF COURSE, BROTHA
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2004 13:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you show me a few verses, besides the one that you have quoted already about wine making the heart glad. If you show me one like that, I can show you 10 or twenty that mention that our joy is Lord. He, Himself is our joy, our pleasure etc. To me that shows a focus and intention of Scripture.
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2004 18:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why should they stumble? Why are they not smoking?


That is a wrong question to ask. I don't smoke because I have been told by GOD'S spirit and through his word that I was doing what was sinful when I smoked. So, I don't smoke because my GOD told me not to. For you to argue that it was not JAH telling me; this would be as if you werePLAYING GOD

Now, you are saying that it is O.K. for me to smoke because I have freedom I say I have freedom in CHRIST not to smoke

Now a younger (in spirit)/ weaker christian may hear JAH saying DON'T SMOKE But you come and say it is a freedom JAH brings and he takes what you say and starts smoking and is caused to use other drugs etc....

And you cannot ignore this scenario because it happens very often. I know from personal experience. And for you to say it is not YOU who caused this person to stumble would be like saying you don't sin.

My statement about both being right is still valid and true.

You (by what you have said) talk with/worship with those that smoke right????

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I don't know. When I reason with Iah's there's smoke there many times, but there's not really people who have a problem with that.


This was your answer to the question I asked about smoking during a church service or bible study. DID YOU REALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION????

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I guess we do.... I guess JAH placed us in two different places too, where it is obvious that with your stance I couldn't do what I do, and with my stance you couldn't do what you do?


It's interesting that you say this yet deny that you both can be right.

1PETER 4:10Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.

Don't take the bold personal I am taking the advice given to me and it is working great.
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2004 22:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

DID YOU KNOW THAT IN HEBREW, "SERAPHIM" LITERALLY MEANS, "SMOKE DRINKER"? JUST A MEDITATIVE THOUGHT..



WARRIOR SAID:As for the healing of the nations I still would like to have biblical proof that herb is the healing of the nations from JAH SON. And not just your opinion.Can you show where it says herb "IS" or are you just telling people what YOU want them to hear? The bible says that CHRIST will heal and that HE alone. Otherwise this reasoning that you have is not valid.

THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE LEAVES OF THE TREE OF LIFE "SHALL BE FOR THE HEALING OF THE NATIONS."

THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY, "HEMP IS THE HEALING OF THE NATIONS."
THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY, "THE TRINITY"
THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY, "Does it make sense to say that these reasonings(Blaminack and Messian) can both be correct because both are bringing/giving glory and thanks to GOD?????? "
THE BIBLE DOESN'T EVEN SAY, "THESE 66 BOOKS ARE THE COMPLETE WORD OF GOD"

STILL THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH.
WHEN THE HEMP PLANT IS TAKEN FROM IT'S ENVIRONMENT, IT PUTS THE ENTIRE ECO-SYSTEM IN AN IMBALANCED STATE. <<NOT AN OPINION, BUT TRUTH.
THIS IMBALANCE CONTRIBUTES TO THE 'SICKENING' OF THE NATIONS.<<NOT OPINION, BUT TRUTH.
THE POWERS THAT BE, AS PAUL WOULD CALL 'EM, ARE DOING MANY THINGS CONTRARY TO JAH'S NATURAL ORDER.<<NOT AN OPINION, BUT FACT.
CRIMINALIZING (MONOPOLIZING) GOD'S HERBS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.<<NOT AN OPINION, BUT AN EVIDENT FACT.
HAVING "A FOOD SURPLUS" BUT PEOPLE STILL GO HUNGRY IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE THINGS.<<NOT AN OPINION, BUT AN EVIDENT FACT.

CAN YOU SEE THE TRUTHICAL PROOF OF YOUR STATEMENT? I CAN. SO WHEN WE SAY, HERB IS THE HEALING OF THE NATIONS, CAN YOU SEE THE TRUTHICAL PROOF IN THIS MUCH-ABUSED STATEMENT? I CAN.





MESSIAN DREAD: HERB IS MEAT (GEN1). CLEANSED BY THE GIVING OF THANKS, WHICH IS THE SACRAMENT.





BLAMINACK SAID:Man cannot approach God outside of the method that God has set.

VERY TRUE. GOD'S METHOD: FREEDOM
GOD HAS INDEED SET A METHOD FOR INI TO APPROACH HIM. HEARTICAL (SPIRITUAL) THANKS AND PRAYS. YOU YOURSELF KNOW THAT WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP RITUALS AND RITES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? TRUTH SETS YOU FREE. (YOU ARE WAY OUT OF CONTEXT WITH YOUR OT BIBLE QUOTES--DO YOU SEE? PLEASE RESPOND)



FREE UP THE HERBALIST.
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2004 23:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Jah Son,

But the method of approaching God is not "freedom". As a matter of fact it is a very exclusive manner. It is only by the Blood Of Christ. That alone is a worthy sacrifice, and that alone will be accepted. Don't try to send folks by some other way. There is only one gate.
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2004 23:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

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THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE LEAVES OF THE TREE OF LIFE "SHALL BE FOR THE HEALING OF THE NATIONS."


The leaves of what tree????

JAH SON says the marijuna tree.

Not good enough.

Your analogy doesn't make sense. JAH spirit, JAH flesh, JAH word.
We (people) simply labeled truth as "trinity". No body said it has to be called trinity.

You change or make up truth to fit your belief of hemp. You are saying that hemp IS the healing of the nations.

Your opinions are not making sense. First you say that you are not taking it out of Revelation and now you are saying it is from GOD'S word. You contradict yourself. Is the tree you talk about out of the bible or not????

If it is the tree the bible talks of; then you MUST know that it is JESUS- NOT hemp. who gives life, who heals nations!!!!! NOT HEMP.
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2004 23:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

i second blackinack.....hear hear ole chap...well put
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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2004 10:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jah Son-The leaves of that tree are not ganja leaves...Do you know why?...Because that tree is not an actual tree...That tree is Christ himself!

Christ is the tree of life!

And it does not just say that the leaves are for healing...But it says it bore twelve manners of fruit...Every month.

12 fruits...For the twelve tribes.

Christ is that tree...Not a ganja plant!
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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2004 14:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaminack wrote:
Can you show me a few verses, besides the one that you have quoted already about wine making the heart glad. If you show me one like that, I can show you 10 or twenty that mention that our joy is Lord. He, Himself is our joy, our pleasure etc. To me that shows a focus and intention of Scripture.


Indeed. It shows how much it is a subect, an item! Not really an item. Other then that, it is not a matter of how much anything is written in order to make one thing more true then the other. There are no multiple truths and the bible is not a democratic gathering where whosoever has the most counts wins.


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Why should they stumble? Why are they not smoking?

That is a wrong question to ask. I don't smoke because I have been told by GOD'S spirit and through his word that I was doing what was sinful when I smoked. So, I don't smoke because my GOD told me not to. For you to argue that it was not JAH telling me; this would be as if you werePLAYING GOD


It is not a wrong question. I think it is THE question one should ask himself. You gave a good answer to a good question, so what is your problem? Don't you think I consider it a good reason to not do a thing cause JAH said not to do it? Or do I have to say that as well? I consider that a natural fact. And to question if it is really JAH is obedience to the Lord Himself!

To question a thing when this is a thing people say JAH told them is not wrong either. Paulus orders us, through the Holy Spirit, repeatly to CHECK and DOUBLE CHECK if these things are so.

If you come and say Jah told you a thing (especially when this thing is not only about yourself) then it is my DUTY to check that out.

I am not playing God when I check a certain "prophesy", I am obeying Him. I am not obeying God if I do not check. This is how these terrible things like that "toronto blessing" and all that enters into the Christian World. It is all done by manipulation and false prophesy and intimidation of the faithfull who want to check these things out if it is really Jah.

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You (by what you have said) talk with/worship with those that smoke right????
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I don't know. When I reason with Iah's there's smoke there many times, but there's not really people who have a problem with that.
This was your answer to the question I asked about smoking during a church service or bible study. DID YOU REALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION????


I can't see how I didn't answer it....

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1PETER 4:10Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.

It's interesting that you say this yet deny that you both can be right.


We're not talking about the various forms of JAH's grace, we're talking about a difference in perception and opinnion about herb smoking and because Bill doesn't believe that there are situations in which one smokes herb without sinning I think it it not possible to conclude we are "both right". Maybe we are put on the right place by our God, but that is a different thing.
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