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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2004 19:09    Post subject: Rastifarian Christ? Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I was wondering something. I had read an article that stated that a group, (P.O.D.) believed that Rasta's are Christians.

I have nothing against Rasta's, so don't get me wrong, but if they believe that Hallie Salassie is the Christ, than they don't believe in Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ was not Sallassie, He only came once, and He will come again, but people will know when He comes (rapture, judgement, etc).

The Jesus I read about in the NT is not the "christ" from Rastafari. That is why this group is called Christafari.

So if one believes that they are two different gods, then how can one say that the Rasta Christ is the same as the Christian Christ.

I believe that a lot of the things I have heard Bob Marley sing are amazing and truthful. But one of the things that the devil does is tell us 99.5 percent of the truth and leave that little bit of lie there. So as much as I admire the words of Bob Marley and the things he stood for, there are a lot of error in his beliefs. He didn't believe in Christ (at least at the time he made his recordings) as he said in Get up Stand up, some people think great God will come from the sky... you will look to yours on earth... do you see what I am saying?

I don't want to cause hurt to anyone here and if I do I appologize in advance, but I just want to understand this since I have only recently heard this. The Truth is the Truth. Christ is Christ. Christ is not a man who died. Didn't Mr. Sallassie say that he is not Christ and started the Ethiopian Church to emphasis this?

ANyways, I will leave my questions to you,

Thanks!
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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2004 20:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

OREMUS

You are absolutely correct!...By the way there was no need to apologize for that...If one gets upset..Oh well!...Teach God's Word WITHOUT apology!

That's the truth...Rastas may say they believe in Christ...But if they are into all the Selassie biz...Then they DO NOT believe in the true Christ...They are decieved!

Satan is a regular scripture lawyer...And I guarantee you satan can quote more scripture than most Christians can...But he always puts that little twist in there...Just enough to make it a lie...And if one is not careful..They may get tricked and decieved.

You see..Those that call themselves rasta are embarrassed about Christ...Instead of calling themselves Christian,,They call themselves rasta.

We as Christians call ourselves Christian in order to boldly show our relationship with Christ...Those that call themselves rasta are more concerned about their relationship with rasta (Haile Selassie) than they are about their relationship with Christ.....It is almost as if they are embarrassed about Jesus Christ.

"Oh yes..I believe in Jesus Christ..But I call myself rasta"......THEN YOU DO NOT TRULY BELIEVE IN CHRIST!!
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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2004 02:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who believe that Rastas do not believe in the same Yesus as the Son of Jah Who Died for Us, are unaware of many important facts concerning this movement.

I think you might be interested in reading the thread "Christafari Dorctrine", where you might find a variety of opinnions concerning the remarks you have made in your original posting.
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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2004 04:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

So then why do they call themselves rastas?...Do they think they are better than Christians?...Are they embarrassed to call themselves Christian?...Why do they have to call themselves rasta?

Didn't Paul say not to say "We are of Paul"..?

Same applies here...Noone should say "I am rasta" or I am of rasta"

Obviously they are embarrassed about Christ's name...Either that or else they think they are better than Christians.
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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2004 07:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Messian Dread wrote:
People who believe that Rastas do not believe in the same Yesus as the Son of Jah Who Died for Us, are unaware of many important facts concerning this movement.

I think you might be interested in reading the thread "Christafari Dorctrine", where you might find a variety of opinnions concerning the remarks you have made in your original posting.


Well yeah, that is why I asked for help with this, because I am unaware of many important facts concerning the movement, as you say.

So what are the facts? All I know is that they believe that one of the lost tribes is in Etheopia (spelled wrong, sorry) and that Sallasse was Christ. That is a fact from what I have read, mostly from Bob Marley's website.

If in fact they believe that Christ and Sallasse are the same person, then they are wrong and not Christians. If I am wrong in that belief, then I ask to be informed because then I am greatly mistaken.

It is like the argument with the Moslems. They too believe in Christ. But they say Christ is not God. If their Christ is not God, then it is not Jesus Christ. They are not the same Christ. They are different Christs.

My Christ died a brutal and terrible death that He did not deserve for me and for all of our sins. He took all of that on Himself. And more importantly, after He died after recieving that punishment I deserved, He ROSE from the dead. The Muslim and Rasta "christ" did not do that. At least that is what I understand.

Hey, I appreciate anyway you can enlighten me.

A servant of Jesus forever,

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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2004 08:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was suggested is that you read the "Christafari Doctrines" thread and find out some of the answers you are looking for there.

The fact is that the largest organized group of Rastas on the globe ARE actually believers in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. They do not look to His Imperial Majesty Haile Sellassie I as God or Christ at all. They see H.I.M. as just a picture of Christ, like Joseph or Noah in the Bible. The name of this group is the 12 tribes of Israel. The 12 tribes leader urges daily bible reading and has publickly stated His belief is Jesus as the only way to redemption.

Now there are SOME Rastas who do see Sellasie I as God. There are SOME who do not. Rastafarianism is NOT a religion. I believe that there are many people in the movement who are genuine seekers of the true and living God. I also find a refreshing purity about these who have been drawn to our Lord Jesus by Himself apart from a sometimes confused Western culture.

I believe it is wrong to judge without a clear picture of the truth. When yu assume that all of a certain group are a certain way without really studying or looking for yourself you have alot of real confusion and even wrongful generalizations.

Try looking in the churches today for instance. I heard a statement (from the pulpit) recently that only 10% of people in America today who call themselves Christians live there lives from a biblical perspective. In other words there is a drought of TRUE believers in our world today. When you really look at some of the lifestyles of people who profess Christ you will see where there heart is. I see that many Rastas want to live seperated lives to Jah. They are willing to change the way they look, eat, and act for the creator and Redeemer of thier soul. Our prayer should be for more of that, and also that those who describe themselves as Christians to do the same.
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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2004 18:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zion, you took the words out of my keyboard.....
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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2004 18:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I'd like to add: how did the original starter of this thread get the idea from that Rastafari is what he thinks it is?

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