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cross fiyah
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 04:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oremus

Go to the top of your screen...Right beside the LOZ logo...Where it says "Home..About LOZ..Store..Forum..FAQ"

Click on FAQ...That is what everybody is talking about.

There you will find questions and answers about Christafari and rastafari.

You will see that the views expressed there are not unique to Christafari...In other words these views and expressions existed way before Christafari came on the scene.

And some are waging an all out war against Mark and Christafari by saying that this is some "Christafari doctrine" that is unique to Mark and Christafari.....HOGWASH!!

I don't think Mark needs to change a thing about those views expressed there...Alot of the views expressed there are views I have read about rasta a long time ago....No need to compromise to please trouble makers!
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 04:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

What has your x-ristian christ done for me apart from filling me with racial x-ristian hate, myths and fantasies of a WHITE manger messiah! & promoting the persecusion of palestians & africans by christian whites & people we really dont know how to proove whether they are the TRUE jews( DEFINATELY NOT BY PAULS DEFINATION)??????

SELASIE(H.I.M.) I STILL KNOW TRUE WISDOM & CONFIDENCE!!
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 04:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I am starting to see that you are filled with some serious Christian hate. But you should understand that your problem is not with the REAL Christ of the Bible but with bad examples of Christians. Surely you are sharp enough to see the differance.

The issue with Palestinians is not Christians but Jews.

In Africa there is much blood shed by Africans that have nothing to do with Christianity but rather Islam.

I am wondering do you consider your self to be a racist?
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 05:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read up your Bible Warthog....Christ (NOT Selassie) warned about those type of people....And they are NOT hard to recognize at all!.....They are called Kenites...The sons of Cain...Those that claim to be of our brother Judah but are in fact of the synagogue of satan!

If it was not for Christ...Then you would have absolutely no idea who they were!
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 06:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa hold it you guys.

I didn't post this to start a fight. Nor did I post it to judge or anything like that.

Warthog, what you said is what I know about Rastas. That Jesus is not the Christ - Salassie is.

cross fiyah, I did look at it, I understand a bit better now. I have to read it over more though.

One of the things I noticed that Usama bin Ladin and other Muslim extremeists seem to site is that we "the Christian west" are doing all of this things in the name of "our God". The fact is, not everyone in the west is "surpise" a Christian. Not every person in the US and Canada is a Christian. Thus to make the arguement that Christians have done this, and Christians have done that is just wrong.

That is the same argument you are making, warthog. You are stating that all Christians in the west have done these things. That all westerners are Christians, basically. That is mistaken. Not everyone is a Christian. And being a Christian is more than just saying that you believe in Jesus, and more than just words. The Christian Life - the TRUE Christian Life - is a personal relationship with God, through Jesus Christ. It is Christ in me, the hope of Glory. It is His life in me. It isn't just lip service. It is life.

That being said, just because you say that we all do these things doesn't mean we do it. The western world (North America - Canada and the US) have done aweful things around the world. This is not a Christian thing. People can do things in the name of God, but it isn't God who does it. Jesus loves all men, He is not racial, men are. Jesus meets us where we are at, so it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, blind or lame, old or young, black or white. Jesus came and died for all men. There are no colour lines there, except for those things that MAN puts up. Man is corrupt, warthog, so that is why those things happen. And yes, Christians are capable of those things, we are all human and we sin.

Anyways, more info on what I asked for would be great. I didn't mean for this to be a huge debate, I don't want to battle idiologies. I just want to learn. If we don't learn, we can't grow, both you warthog, and me. They say Christians have a closed mind. Well, I am open to learn. So teach me please.
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 13:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oremus, I wouldn't worry too much about people who obviously are only posting in order to make a fight. Not about socalled Rastas who do not even know the difference between the white geezus with the pye in the sky and the Yesus Kristos Who is worshipped by Haile Selassie I. Not about socalled bible-knowers who can only bash Rastafari and other people, not hindered by any insight or knowledge. They're all pretty quick to be recognized and can be ignored.

The "Christafari Doctrine", I refer to a thread right here in this message board. It is kind oif a long thread, and especially in the beginning many things had to be overcome because some people seem to equate critisism with character-killing, but when you read on you may find some interesting information.

The thread is here: http://www.lionofzion.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1653

You might also be interested in the following articles: http://www.dubroom.org/articles/0001.htm (IRIE FM INTERVIEW THE PROPHET GAD: A much reffered to interview, originally published by Jamaican Radio Sation IRIE FM. The Interview was transcribed by Messian Dread, and published here and on the RAS ADAM WEBSITE with explicit permission.)

http://www.dubroom.org/articles/0002.htm (DUB MISSIVE INTERVIEW ARCHBISHOP YESEHAQ In this interview you will learn, from someone especially appointed by Haile Selassie to teach it, what the teachings of His Majesty are, also when it comes to his divinity as believed in by some.)
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 20:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

SORRY TO SOUND RACIAL IN MY PREVIOUS POST, BUT FROM EVERY ANGLE I'M STILL; TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THE CHURCH GOING FLOCK OR MOST OF THEM KEEP RALLYING TO CONTINUE SUFFERING THE SURVIVAL OF THE RASTAS, WHEN I PERSONALLY READ THE SCRIPTURES, WHAT THIS FOLLOWERS DO TURNS UP TO BE CONTRARY OF YESHUAHS PERSONALL TEACHINGS!
crossfiyah Was the persons interviewing Selasie(H.I.M.) PURE in heart to be able to see JAH????
I guess thats why the people couldnt see JAH through yeshuah in his time????!!!!!!
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2004 20:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are mistaken...The person interviewing Selassie was NOT standing before God!

And plus...You'd be surprised at what the Bible does cover....You should try reading it!
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