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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2004 05:47    Post subject: What is the difference between Rastafarism and Christianity Reply with quote

I say none except racist doctrine against white people. The inability to accept Christ as a Jew/White man, but only as a black man. When Christ is of all and no color at the same time. This creates a basis of Racism that divides the body of Christ against eachother.

Any other difference would be based on falsities about Salassie as Christ/God which can easily be refuted by HIS own words.

I am talking about the real Rasta movement. Not the american hippy pop culture religon based on reggae music.

Anyway interesting topic for me, I love to reason and hear what others think about these controverisal ideals.
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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2004 06:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots of differences between the 2 belief systems, one of the foremost is what I just said. Rastafarians don't usually view their belief to be a part of a system, or having a foundational doctrine while Christianity does. This leaves much of Rastafari up to interpretation based on the individual and to the different 'sects' that exist between them (12 Tribes, Nyabinghi, Bobo Ashanti, etc (I dont' know them all))

Concerning Race: It is my opinion that over the years Rasta has accepted many outside of the Black, but maintains to be a pro-black movement, as its original members formed it out of the oppression of whites. I have heard of some individual Rastas that have spoke negatively about some mixed race rastas but Bob Marley was mixed and was all about unity of all races. I don't think any rasta would deny Bob as not being part of the movement. Race remains an individual/group/cultural issue as there are many rastas all over the world of all different colors.

Interestingly I see a need for specific cultural organization but it is only because of the dis-organization that exists between cultures and races, particularly in the states, excluding the metropolitan cities.

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The inability to accept Christ as a Jew/White man, but only as a black man.
It's not so much an inability as it is a "resistance to accept the wool being pulled over your eyes". Such as was the case with Malcolm X, and of my own personal experience growing up in the Caribbean, Black History is not/was not always taught as extensively as European history in schools, so the movement helps to educate Black culture of it's culture. There are extremists that take on the views as the Black man as God not only within rasta but many other religious organizations such as the Nation of Islam but that's a different subject also discussed elsewhere on this board.

So.. the topics are alot more in-depth, but if you search the previous pages we have discussed this quite in depth before.

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When Christ is of all and no color at the same time. This creates a basis of Racism that divides the body of Christ against eachother.

In my minds eye I don't see how this could be confusing but I guess the issue is that not all races see God as race-less.. and race-encompassing.. hehe.. it is our own human ignorance that limits God to a box.
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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2004 14:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am glad people dont accept Christ as a white man cause after study the ancient roots and lineage for Christ it is easy to see that he was not white. and it is not just the false ideas of the color of Christs skin that has pushed some black poeple away from western christianity it is the fact that white missionaries throughout the years having been forcing on poeple their belief in their own cultural superiority, i have seen it from here in the caribbean to the motherland of africa when i was living there.
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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004 09:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the least understood aspects of Rastafari.

First, I am very much opposes to the thing that they allways do, namely to compare a "rasta vs christian" thing.

But the black and white thing has nothing to do with any Rastaman's racism.

It is a result of the slavery. Babylon has told the black man that black people were created by the white geezus to obey the white man. It is in this context one has to understand "black is the best" and remarks like that. If a Rasta says Yesus is Black, this has nothing to do with some so called racist thing, it is an answer to the babylonian who say geezus is white (and draws wicked conclusions out of it).

Yesus is on the side of the sufferer and the downpressed, agreed? So Yesus is black.

If you don't overstand this, you miss the whole point about Rasta and you will never be able to fully grasp what Rastafari is.
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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004 18:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a Rasta says Yesus is Black, this has nothing to do with some so called racist thing, it is an answer to the babylonian who say geezus is white (and draws wicked conclusions out of it).


WOW! So true!

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If you don't overstand this, you miss the whole point about Rasta and you will never be able to fully grasp what Rastafari is.


The problem is that many, many people do not know this and don't care enough to find out about this. So the key to overstanding "ANYTHING" is to not follow any "belief" or "sytem" or "opinion"!

Follow JESUS CHRIST for He is the WAY! And if following YESUS leads a man (white or black) to rastafari then it is to be. Yet, it CANNOT be said that all men (white or black) should or need to be rastafarians. Nor should it be said that all men need or should be christian. These are words that we use to "classify" people. We (as beleivers) are the body of CHRIST wether christian or rasta. As we know that JAH word is clear who is and who isn't a follower of YESHUA!

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:[but] he that acknowledgeeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
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PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004 04:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with your analysis concerning "the problem". Another problem added to that is that the same people think, because of some reason, they can judge Rastafari still.
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PostPosted: 01 May 2004 18:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings and Blessings!!!
If InI is a Rasta then there is no need to discuss the "difference" between Rasta and Christianity, seen? Rasta is a Christian faith!! all Christian sects have their personal prophets, preachers, and/or pontiffs. For the Rasta community these inspirational peoples stem from times past into times present. Our faith was strengthend by the union of King Solomom with the Queen of Sheba, and if our royal lineage passes through King Solomon then it must flow also through Yesus Christ, seen? So there may be some diffrences in doctrine and reasonin, but the foundation remains the same!!! Rasta know and overstand that salvation is through Yesus Christ for InI read the scriptures, but forwarding into the future we know and comprehend that Jah had to send prophets to bring the faith back to the people it was seperated from, to teach and/or remind them that they too were/are part of this I-story. All reasonins is positive, for InI gain knowledge, if of nothing else then of self, but instead on focussing itinually on the difference the I & InI should focus on what we share in common-spiritual knowledge.
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PostPosted: 02 May 2004 01:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Messian Dread wrote:
This is one of the least understood aspects of Rastafari.

First, I am very much opposes to the thing that they allways do, namely to compare a "rasta vs christian" thing.

But the black and white thing has nothing to do with any Rastaman's racism.

It is a result of the slavery. Babylon has told the black man that black people were created by the white geezus to obey the white man. It is in this context one has to understand "black is the best" and remarks like that. If a Rasta says Yesus is Black, this has nothing to do with some so called racist thing, it is an answer to the babylonian who say geezus is white (and draws wicked conclusions out of it).

Yesus is on the side of the sufferer and the downpressed, agreed? So Yesus is black.

If you don't overstand this, you miss the whole point about Rasta and you will never be able to fully grasp what Rastafari is.


Well Mister Dread, The reason I bring up the ras vs christian debate is because Rasta IS christian according to Salassie. My aim is to expose the racism and intolerance of Rasta and bring about the unity of all children of God.
You explain the reasons for the racism, but the fact it is still there, as if any white person was never a sufferer, does that distinction only belong to african people? As if Jesus was not a Jewish person, what some might consider white. But the point is, it doesnt matter what color he was except to those who are hung up with the racism.

Dont you know that the white guy is praying to the same god as the dread? If you cant be in unity in Christ, you are then refusing Christ.

No matter what history people have, I can't support racism against white people against black people against jews against muslims arabs whatever type of human you may be. The past doesn't justify the hate. There should be unity with all races in jesus. Not a seperation. That is one of the main points of the New Testement.

For who is your real family? those with the same skin tones? or the Family of God?
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