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Ras B
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PostPosted: 11 Dec 2003 10:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do you act like you do not see it?..
no acting here, i wrote the exact deffintion i see in the concordance for #119
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PostPosted: 11 Dec 2003 11:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah..I was thinking that we were looking it up from two different sources...I tried that blue letter website you were talking about...I really could not figure out how to really use it..It is very confusing...I think the actual book of the Strong's concordance is much much easier to use..I did look up the word "ruddy" on that website and it does not give the defintion given in the The New Strong's exhaustive concordance which is actually the one I have...And also I don't think you can trace it to the prime on there(I could be wrong..But it was very confusing for me...Difficult to understand how to use)..But hey good for you for checking it out!! ...Sorry for any misunderstanding ...Anyone who has the same concordance as I do can verify that I was giving you the correct definition for #119.

If you do not have the actual book of the New Strong's concordance..I would advise you as a friend to get one...They are very useful...And if you can not get one...Let me know and I maybe can send you one.
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PostPosted: 11 Dec 2003 23:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you do not have the actual book of the New Strong's concordance..I would advise you as a friend to get one...They are very useful...And if you can not get one...Let me know and I maybe can send you one


i appreciate the offer but i am content with that site it serves me well. i actually looked up the word adam on there not ruddy and thats were i got to #119 in strongs and the deffinition it gave
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PostPosted: 12 Dec 2003 10:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's cool..Dr. Strong's work is very helpful...But understand that you may not be getting the full definitions from that website...I really don't think it is updated....The New Strong's exhaustive concordance goes much more in depth.
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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2003 22:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiyah i have to further disagree with your adam/ruddy/#119/whiteman theory.

the word adam #120 means man and i believe that is why his name the firsts mans name was adam. basically his name was Man.

the word adam/man is used 552 times in the old testament and all of those times #119 is the root word. let me show you how ridiculous you #119 thoery is to apply it to man#120

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Lev. 18:5 You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, which if a man does, he shall live by them: I am the Lord.

so would you say thwn that Jah is only asking whitemen whose blood ahows through their skin to keep his statutes and judgements
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Lev. 24:17'Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.

so only if you kill a white man you will be put to death
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further the word#119 in never used in the bible as a human characteristic

i think the definition of the original language is important to kow but if you apply the deffinition of its root word the meaning can get distorted. if you interprated the whole bible like that you would end up with some messed up stuff
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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2003 22:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i forgot to add the numbers in those two verses but the concordance reference number for the word man used in both of those verses is 0120
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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2003 12:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't I just explain to you guys about the prime???....That's what I thought I did....And now you guys just want to pick up the argument where we left off....What did I just tell you guys??......The prime for #120 IS #119.

You still have to take it to the prime....which IS #119!

There is no way that you can get away from #119 when using #120...Because #119 is the prime
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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2003 13:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the prime, but what is the primary meaning of that word? it is clearly "Man", NOT "ruddy". You do not translate it as "ruddy" except in a few cases. The primary meanign is MAN. Made from EARTH. Which is red, hence ruddy.

I am sure you will carry on doing so, but you cannot make the logical jumps you are doing to get to "white". Carry on, but this is all I'm saying about it.
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