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Ras B
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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2003 19:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

obviously fiyah you didnt understand my examples so i will show them again, interpreting these verses using your "take it to the prime" method.


Lev. 18:5 You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, which if a man#120 does, he shall live by them: I am the Lord.
---now if you take that to the deffinition of the root word like you are trying to prove is right, heres what the verse says:---
Lev. 18:5 You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, which if a white man does, he shall live by them: I am the Lord.

so if we are going to follow your method then we have not other choice but to see that the verse is saying Jah is only telling white men to keep His statutes and commandments. so then we could say that everyone else who is not white doesnt have to keep Jah commandments

are we on the same page here fiyah? do you see how ridiculous that verse is when you apply your take it to the root method on the word #120 all the time? lets look at another example now

Lev. 24:17'Whoever kills any man#120 shall surely be put to death.
---- now lets interprate this using your method
Lev. 24:17'Whoever kills any white man shall surely be put to death.

so only if you kill a white man you will be put to death? you can kill other people with different skin color and not be put to death for it?

i hope you see what i am getting at here. if you must take #120 to the root in genesis then you must do it in the rest of the old testament and in all the other verses in the old testament the "take it to prime" method makes no sense in the context of the verse or the rest of the bible.
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PostPosted: 18 Dec 2003 03:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can't always take a word to it's prime, even in our language it's the same. If they wanted to use the prime, then they wouldn't have used the word they used, right? It gives things a different meaning, even though it's based from another word.
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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2003 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Strong does do some good work...But you can't expect everything to be already laid out for you...You have got to do do some work yourself.

Ras B is trying to take this conversation somewhere where it should not be going.

Also you must realize that Adam means mankind=male and female...Red ,Yellow ,Black,White....Created on the 6th day

There is also haw-aw-dawm...That is to say "THE" Adam...Formed on the 8th day.....Ruddy complected

So really...When you say "Adam"......You really need to clarify which one you are referring to.


Adam means mankind...Male and female....Race does not matter....Adam can be a white man...A black man....A red man...and so on.


But haw-aw-dawm..."THE" Adam...was ruddy complected...Showing blood in the face.
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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2003 19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ras B is trying to take this conversation somewhere where it should not be going
so basically your saying this conversation should'nt go somewhere that disproves your theory. what i said is completly relevant, no matter what the prime word says you have to take every bit of the bible in context with itself.

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Also you must realize that Adam means mankind=male and female...Red ,Yellow ,Black,White....Created on the 6th day


but if you take it to the ADAM#120 in gen. 1:26 to the prime#119 then it doesnt leave room for other colors of people

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But haw-aw-dawm..."THE" Adam...was ruddy complected...Showing blood in the face.
so you can apply you root word method only when you decide its appropriate then right?

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Adam means mankind...Male and female....Race does not matter....Adam can be a white man...A black man....A red man...and so on.
not if you take it to the root, it makes it all light skinned.
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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2003 19:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ras B-No that is not what I am saying...You are really trying to show me out to be a racsist...It is not going to work.

The reason you can not understand what I am saying is because you probably believe that there was only one man in the beginning.

The man created in Genesis 1 was also adam...CREATED on the 6th day...This word "adam" means mankind..Male and female were created at the same time...and they were adam=mankind..This is when God created all the races...And he looked and saw that it was VERY GOOD!<<This is what I believe..So to call me a racsist is pretty ignorant.

Then there was a man FORMED on the 8th day...haw-aw-dawm...Or "THE" Adam...His actual name was Adam...He was ruddy complected...He was of the adamic race(Ruddy race).

So you really have to do the work yourself when looking up words.

When talking about the 6th day man...it is adam=mankind=male and female.

When talking about 8th day man...it is Adam=ruddy

Some people may disagree with me on this...But let me say this if you are thinking that way...Check out the Hebrew manuscrpits...Check out a companion Bible....And you will find it there.

Also answer this:If you think Adam was the only human on Earth.
1) How come in Genesis 1...animals were created BEFORE man was created...And in Genesis 2...animals were formed AFTER man was formed???

To some..(That believe that Adam was the only human on Earth)This might look like a contradiction in the Bible...But it is NOT!!

Clearly this is talking about two different people.....6th day man....and 8th day man.
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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2003 22:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are really trying to show me out to be a racsist...It is not going to work.
no fiyah actually i'm not, i am just strongly opposed to your intrepration of adam and the hebrew deffinition, ect.

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When talking about the 6th day man...it is adam=mankind=male and female.

When talking about 8th day man...it is Adam=ruddy
thats your opinion, and your right i don not beleive that Jah created all races on the sixth day. the bible even says that we are all decendants of adam and that is why we all inherit his sin nature. if Jah created many races of men and women on the sixth day and Adam on the eigth day then why did Jah have to create woman from his own rib and not just bring him a woman from wherever the poeple where that you think were around already?

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Also answer this:If you think Adam was the only human on Earth.
1) How come in Genesis 1...animals were created before man was created...And in Genesis 2...animals were formed after man was formed???
thats irrelevant because genesis two also says he formed adam before the plants and vegetation sprouted up and genesis one says that he created those one the three days before when you say all the races were created. that is an interesting subject that i need to further study but really has no bearing whether or not adam was the only one on earth

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Clearly this is talking about two different people.....6th day man....and 8th day man.


the only really clear thing here is that that is your own opinion
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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2003 22:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ras B

Check out the Hebrew manuscripts...You can not argue with them...Also check out a companion Bible...You will find out that it is not just my opinion...It is a documented fact!....Check into it....And you will find that those things DO have some bearing as to if Adam was the only human on Earth.

By saying that things are irrelevant really shows me that you are trying to dodge the question.

And if Adam was the only human being on Earth...Then the Bible does contradict itself.

I am a firm believer that God's word is true...And whenever it looks like God's word is in error...It is actually me that is in error.

God's word is not in error...That is why there is more to it than just what you read in the English language....The Hebrew language goes way way more into detail than the English language...And the Hebrew manuscripts clearly show that there was a 6th day and an 8th day man....adam and THE Adam.

Why did God make Eve out of Adam's rib and not just bring him a woman that was already created?

Good question! .........That is why you must know the difference in "CREATED" and "FORMED"

All the other woman were CREATED...."THE" Adam was FORMED....And he took Eve out of Adam so that she would be FORMED as well.

Because it would be Eve's womb that Christ would come through(Umbilical cord to umbilical cord)....Eve was the mother of all living..YES....But this does not mean that all humans came from her womb....It means that Christ would come through her womb...Christ IS life!...And if you believe in Christ then you are living...THAT is why Eve is called the mother of all living.
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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2003 22:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By saying that things are irrelevant really shows me that you are trying to dodge the question.
actually no i am sying it is irrelevant because there are other part of genesis two that dont seem to line up with genesis one.

your are right the bible does not contrdict itself, only people can contradict the bible, and i disagree with your interpretation, and there are scholars way more studied and knowledgable then you and i and the there are some that beleive as you do and other that believe as i do so you interpretation is your opinion and the way you choose to believe, and i am simply saying i dont agree with it. we can go one with all these hypothetical situation about why did God do this and why does it say that and it all just comes down to how you interprate the bible and we already know we disagree on your take it to the root method for #120 so it really doesnt suprise me that we disagree on this topic either
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