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PostPosted: 18 Feb 2004 17:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going along with what Talking Dog is writing ( I think).

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We inherit our sin nature from our first father, Adam. If there were other races of people that God supposedly made, and these people didn't sin as Adam did, and then Adam's sinful descendants married them,well, the whole gospel message then becomes meaningless.


Also, race is a social construct derived mainly from perceptions conditioned by events of recorded history, and it has NO basic biological reality!

Did Adam have a belly button? By Ken Ham
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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2004 08:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I have said before.....And also like I have been saying from the start.

My basis for this belief comes straight from the Hebrew manuscripts.......Do you guys doubt that this is in the Hebrew manuscripts?.......Well if so,All you gotta do is go check it out for yourself!

Talking Dog-Like I say.....Go to the Hebrew......That is where my basis is!

What was the purpose of the first creation?.....To replenish the earth!

No this creation is not excluded from the saving grace of Christ.....And yes these people (There are many) do exist today......They are all around us!......Just look at the different races.

Eth-Ha-Adam was the first Adam.....This is the man that became a living soul............Christ is the second Adam.......He became a quickening (Life giving) spirit.

Warrior- No sir we did not all come from one womb.......And we are not all one blood.......All that is spiritual not literal.

There is even science that shows the difference in the races.....And it proves that one race could not turn into another race......The races are different and unique........That is how God wanted it!

Again.....I will bring up the questions:Where did Cain get his wife?.......And when God punished Cain,Who were all the people that Cain was afraid would kill him?

Well.....Like I said......Cain's wife was one of those sixth day creations.......And Cain was afraid that all the other sixth day creations would kill him.

Also.....Look at the story of Noah.......The Bible says that Noah was spared because he was perfect.......This word "Perfect" does not mean perfect the way we think of perfect.......The correct definition is "Pedigree"............I am sure many of you have heard that word referring to dog's breeding.............Well.....It means Noah's bloodlines were still pure.

To say that we are all one race is the same as saying Christ in the flesh was the same race as those that mixed with the fallen angels......And that is just wrong!!

Christ was of the Adamic race......Because he came through Eth-Ha-Adam's bloodlines....Ruddy.......The Adamic race is a very specific race.........And the very definition will show you just how specific it is.

The fallen angels were not just going after any ol' women......No.......They were going after the daughters of Eth-Ha-Adam..........The daughters of ONE man..........Why?.........Because it would be through Eth-Ha-Adam that Christ would come through.

The fallen angels came and had offspring with the daughters of Eth-Ha-Adam......And the Bible says that they became men of reknown..........The word reknown means "Of old"................This was satan's attempt to destroy the innocence of man............Man was born innocent with no memory of the first earth age (When a third of God's children followed satan)....................The fallen angels mixing with the daughters of Eth-Ha-Adam gave the offspring memory of the first earth age.........That was satan's attempt to destroy man's innocence......And also his attempt to destroy Christ.........And that is why God had to destroy those angels and their offspring and everyone else that had mixed with them.......Only Noah was saved because of his Pedigree!

So to say that we are all one race.....And to declare that as a literal fact......You would be wrong.

Some may get vexed and say"Well you are talking about racist teaching"

No I am not!!......WAKE UP!!.......There is nothing racist about God setting aside a man (Eth-Ha-Adam)......To let his chosen people and the Messiah come through......He needed a race/bloodline that would stay pure and clean so that Messiah could come!
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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2004 13:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Ruth the Moabite? Purity of bloodline was not the point. The point was to show that Christ came through the flesh like anyone else and that he was in line for Davids throne.
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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2004 15:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cross, how would you explain these pasages in light of your interpretation:

Genesis 2

When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [2] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [3] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [4] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- 7 the LORD God formed the man [5] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Where were the hunter/fisher humans if, as verse 3 states, "there was no man to work the ground"? Your interpretation seems to suggest that they preceded "The Adam" of Genesis 2, yet this says there was "no man".

Also genesis 2: 18 onward:
18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
But for Adam [8] no suitable helper was found.

If your "other race" was around, how is it that "The Adam" is alone?

The two accounts of Genesis 1 and 2 are not two separate creations, but two accounts of the same events, with different emphases. Do you know anyone else who teaches what you are suggesting?
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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2004 18:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

We Are Truly Created Hey, OUT Of ONE Blood Equality And Scientifically Too.
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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2004 19:16    Post subject: The important color... Reply with quote

Doesn't matter what color He was. As long as the blood that poured out of His side was RED...

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2004 19:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Messian Dread,




cross fiyah :
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There is even science that shows the difference in the races.....And it proves that one race could not turn into another race......The races are different and unique........


Where is your scientific proof? I gave proof. Did you not read it?????

cross fiyah :
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To say that we are all one race is the same as saying Christ in the flesh was the same race as those that mixed with the fallen angels......And that is just wrong!!


COME ON! These are fallen angels; not from GOD'S same creation as Adam!!!!!!Don't relate it to that. The flood destroyed the children of these fallen angels and Noah was not from one of these "mixed" relations. Noah was found righteous and was still born of Adam not from any of the Nephilim.


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Again..I will bring up the questions:Where did Cain get his wife?


Because JESUS became a man, only descendants of Adam can be saved. So you see-it's important to be able to defend that ALLhuman beings are descendants of the same one man and one woman.

So who was Cain's wife? Genesis 5:4 also states that Adam and Eve had sons and Daughters. Cain must have married his sister. Now marrying a close relative wasn't a problem at the beginning- it was only outlawed at the time of Moses, when close relatives marrying often led to genetic mistakes in their offspring. This has been discussed with you before. I think it was with Jah Servant.


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At the time of Thomas Jefferson, 200 years ago, when people used the term "races" they would think of the Irish or the English race and so on. However Charles Darwin changed all that when he published his book On THE ORIGINS of SPECIES. The title actually included the words "the Preservation of Favored Races in the struggle for LIfe"


Darwin was racist and anyone else who thinks that there was more then ONE man created in the begining is also.

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The word "races" conjures up evolutionary over tones. Many people think "evolution" when they hear this word. As a result of this situation, I believe we need to drop the term "races" when talking about mankind. Based on the Bible, and understand the split-up of people due to the tower of babel event, I believe we should use the words "people groups". After all- there is only ONE race of people, ALL descendants of Adam.

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PostPosted: 20 Feb 2004 08:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warrior-Are you calling me racist?....I guess I can call you ignorant.....Because you are......You are ignorant of the Hebrew.....And you call me a racist out of ignorance.

Talking dog-One thing you need to know is that sometimes when the Bible says the word "Earth"......The subject is not always the whole entire earth....But just a part of the earth...........The garden was not created for just any man......It was created for Eth-Ha-Adam.......So tell me this.....Why would God have to put anything there before he formed Eth-Ha-Adam??.......He wouldn't!......That is why there was nothing there.

And there was no man to work the ground......There was NONE!.....Why?.....Because the sixth day creation was not farmers......They were hunters and fishers......Not tillers of the ground!

Even though there were other men and women created.......Eth-Ha-Adam was all alone.........Why?.......Because Eth-Ha-Adam was FORMED not CREATED.......And there was no other woman on the earth that was FORMED......That is why he was all alone........That is why Eve was taken from Adam so that she would be FORMED as well.

You do know there is a difference between CREATED and FORMED don't you?.....If you understand that then how can you say these are the same man?.......NO!.....One was CREATED and the other was FORMED.

Blaminack-I could explain that to you very easily....But I am not going to bring up anything new about this subject for now.

If you guys would like to talk about this without jumping to conclusions and calling names.....I will do it.

But if all you guys are gonna do is call names and jump to conclusions then...I won't talk with you.

You guys jump to conclusions and start calling names out of ignorance.......All yall are ignorant that call names.........Yeah I said it!......Ig-Nor-Ant!!

You don't have the willingness to check things out for yourself......So instead you call names and jump to conclusions.........That shows nothing but stupidity!

I do not expect people to already know all of this stuff....It is not commonly taught.......But it is indeed in the manuscripts.......Do you guys know any Jews?......If you guys know any Jewsish people they will be able to confirm what I said is true!

No....I don't expect everyone to already know all of this.......But why can't I expect you guys to act like christians if you say you are christians?.......I also am a christian......And I can say that you guys are not acting christian like by calling names.....saying I am the antichrist......Jumping to conclusions.

You guys are about as christian like as the sole of my shoe!

Remember..God's children are destroyed because of lack of knowledge......So you can just keep on closing your ears....And continue to call names and jump to conclusions......And see where that gets you!
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