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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2004 10:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Orwell. "All animals are created equally, but some are more equal then others".

We are all created out of one blood, people, it's that simple and needs no debate. It's spelled in the bible and it's denied with so much words by the man who names himself like a burning cross or at least after an act of violence.

cross fiyah wrote:
(..)we are not all one blood(..)



TD, that whole "doctrine" is one of the babylonian christianities that many seem to fail to recognize. I't's founded on the idea that adam was the white man and the black people the "beasts from the field". Some also think that the nephilim (giant offspring mentioned in gen6) are black people. It's one of those things the enslavers use to keep black people down.

In Norway, they have a saying. "Don't Feed The Trolls". I guess some should consider to practice this saying in their internet activities. If it's not observed you'll get these crazy threads and when you feed the trolls, you'll only reward their trollness... They feed on provocations, their fruit is anger and confusion. They're not interested in a hot debate only in stirring up things that should be left alone. Such as the fact that we are created out of one blood.
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2004 12:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I recognise the roots and evil fruit which will result from this heresy alright, no worry about that. It must be exposed for what it is.
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2004 21:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then why the crap won't you go to the Hebrew text (Where Genesis comes from) to see if I am right or wrong??

I guarantee you...You will find exactly what I have been talking about.


fiyah, i have gone around and around on this subject with you previoulsy and from having looked at the hebrew text i can see how you could come up with your idea here, but i have read and studied the hebrew and disagree with the way you use it to interpret the scriptures. i dont know for sure if the poeple reasoning here with you have studied the hebrew but even if they havent i have and i agree with them. i've said it before and i'll say it again; this is your interpretation not the absolute message of the bible.

and second you need to put some water on that fiyah and cool down. even if someone is to call you a name be the bigger man and dont repond the same way.
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2004 23:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look here guy....You may have studied the Hebrew......But I can tell not enough!

You know that the Massarhetic text leaves absolutely no room at all for interpritation don't you?

So then how can you say what you just said?.....And how can you believe anything contrary to what is there in the text?

The whole purpose of that text.......Is to take what was in the writers mind at the time......And put it into our minds.

To transfer from one person's mind to another person's mind without changing one iota of the text.

So NO SIR!!.....It is not my interpritation!!......It is what is there!!

Also....How do you explain the article and the particle??
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2004 23:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.biblestudygames.com/biblestudies/faq/adamandeve.htm

http://www.biblestudygames.com/biblestudies/gardenofeden.htm
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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2004 08:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

well after reading those articles i realize there is someone who has the same interpretation of the text, though i still dont agree with either of you. anyone can write something on the internet, that doesnt mean nothing
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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2004 10:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it I am not surprised that you link to those pages? I have read them before and they are the wack foundation for your wack posting on this subject.

You demonstrate that, in fact, you are following or aligning with a particular interpretation. Perhaps you have even drawn your interpretation from this website, because I note the extreme similarity with what you have posted here.

It is sheer foolishness to say that ANY text "leaves absolutely no room at all for interpritation". This just demonstrates that you do not yet have a grasp on the basics of a correct approach to scriptural exegesis or understand the issues involved. We have seen many times that you appear to think that your interpretation of any text is the only one possible. Educate yourself man!

I do not expect you to be able to grasp the concept that you are applying an INTEPRETATION which is not the only (and certainly not the most accurate) interpretation possible. In fact it is an esoteric and extreme minority interpretation.

It is completely reasonable to read Gen 1 and 2 as two accounts of one process. The first deals with Man as a generic race, the second deals with Adam as the individual first member of that race. The difference between 'created' and 'formed' is insignificant. The Gen 2 account gives detail of the process of creation - by 'forming'. Not so hard to grasp, surely? Unless your mind is already trying to twist the interpretation.

Since you are citing others as validation for this interpretation, perhaps you should do some further research about those who have also argued for a 'pre-Adamic race' and see the grotesque conclusions these heretics and racists have come to.

If you still insist on arguing for this riduculous exegesis, and you say you hold to the integrity of the scriptures, consider this:

Acts 17: 24-26:

God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;


Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;


Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;


Seen?

Now tell us that there is more than one bloodline from the foundation.

And if you do, you are either a stubborn fool or a very misguided and deceived man.
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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2004 12:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Brother Talking Dog...

thank you sooo much for posting
this~~~~~>"Acts17:26...And hath
made of ONE BLOOD all nations of
men for to dwell on all the face of
the earth, and hath determined the
times before appointed, and the
bounds of their habitation;"

Now placing this with the Genesis
account...there is no budging.

.

You know when the Holy Spirit bears
witness to something and you are
completely convicted of the truth and
then the Word confirms that conviction?
Well that just happened...and the Truth
stands unshakeable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prepare ye the way of the Lord, <><
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