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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:32 am    Post subject: The future of P.O.D. Reply with quote

Check this link out...
http://www.t3ministries.com/news/music/archives/2003_02.php#000101

*sighs*

I hope they continue to rock the party. I think they will, but it sucks that Marcos is leaving. All well, things move on and things change.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can he do that ?? Mad
Anyway Marcos isn't a second Slash, replacing him shouldn't be that hard but he wrote good songs and he had his own style. P.O.D won't sound the same with a new guitarist, simply copying Marcos' style would be poor.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stryper wrote:
How can he do that ?? Mad
Anyway Marcos isn't a second Slash, replacing him shouldn't be that hard but he wrote good songs and he had his own style. P.O.D won't sound the same with a new guitarist, simply copying Marcos' style would be poor.

bah. it is harder than than you think. i liked him. now i do wonder if they will copy some of his style or introduce something new to the team... that is a good thought. i guess we will see.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have the same problem like Limp Bizkit after Wes Borland left the band. He also had his very own style.
Maybe P.O.D will never be as successful as before.
P.O.D had this mix of heavy chords and clean parts. There cannot be a heavy distorted guitar during the whole song, this would suck.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naw. They will continue to rock, no doubt. They are too good of an influence to fail. Smile Lint Biskquit, well... yeah.. lol.

POD rocks the party!

I can't wait until I hear the new lead single for the Matrix Reloaded sound track.

Nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote by Marcos:

"The guitarist said P.O.D. is not as righteous as their reputation. "The thing that's really bugging me out is the e-mail is portrayed all holy and sh--," he said of the letter, which ended with: "Please continue to keep P.O.D. and Marcos in your prayers. All our love is yours. Be blessed."

"As soon as I left, they started talking sh-- behind my back," he said. "It's very, very shady. I have friends defending me on the Web site, and every time they put something up in defense of me, it gets deleted. I'm like, 'What? This is not fair, dude.' ... Then I found out they had another guitar player already. I was like, 'Whoa.' They've been plotting this for a long time."



I always thought P.O.D were a good example of Christians but maybe they aren't that good. After all even Stryper had problems with alcohol and stuff. That's simply the life of a rock star. Sex,drugs,rock'n roll...... Mad
Supposing Marcos is telling the truth and not just trying to drag his old band down, then they've just lost me as a fan. I don't need christian messages wrapped up in hypocrisy. Maybe all the other christian bands aren't really christian, after all it's a huge market and christian bands also make a lot of money. I wouldn't be surprised if Sonny owned an apartment in Hollywood with a Testarossa in his garage.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1470028/20030219/pod.jhtml?headlines=true
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From that interview, Marcos doesnt seem like a very nice, Christian guy at all.

I think I might kick out a member of my Christian band if they started up another nonchristian musical group. Not to mention he said "it needs to be about the music" when it really needs to be about Jesus and their ministry to teens for Jesus.

There are lots of things wrong in that article.

I can say that I know one other band who went through a break up with an original member. This would be the Newsboys. I also know that the guy 'chosing' to leave was actually being kicked out. And that the reason for him leaving was to 'pursue other things', but the real truth behind it is much different and would defame the singers name. Personally I think their tactful way of handling it was much better than just outright telling everything. This ex member is still remembered fondly by the fans, and now he's back home, supposedly doing better, and speaking out about what happened, and how he fixed it.

I kinda think it's to Marcos' shame that he didnt let their press release stand as is. Now, he's not only calling their character into play, but also his. With MTV they might not have much to say, but with Christians it'll definately be discussed.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I think P.O.D are not very christian.
After all they backstabbed Marcos and behaved like real jerks.
I see no reason why he should lie about his former band. Maybe P.O.D are all about making money. I mean their little empire grows and grows. they have their own lable and sign their own bands. I cannot believe that it's not about greed. When you are that rich you become greedy.
And just because Marcos started an "unchristian" band... Uh, that's really a crime. Like he said his other band is only about having fun and stuff.
Maybe he got bored cause P.O.D are maybe hypocritical.
But maybe it's the other way around and Marcos is the "bad guy" while P.O.D are the good guys, the whole thing is confusing and disappointing.
I hadn't anyone of them expected to behave in such a way. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frederik, I pretty much agree with Tara at the moment for many reasons. First of all, you are bases all you knowledge off an MTV interview and a site that is bent on branding POD a satanic band because they have funny have and use a Tinity symbol.

Wait until the facts come out. They always will. If they truly are just a front, then I will be smashing my CD's with you. Simple as that. We don't
know yet though.

Now please, as I said in my e-mail, please don't believe everything you read right off the back. MOST everything on the net is biased and/or blatant lies. You must take everything with a grain of salt and look at it from many angles. This is logical, reasonable, fair, and just. So calm down.

You must have said "maybe" 30 times by now. Well that is the problem. You don't know and I don't know. Until we do, relax.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Esteban, I agree with you that this guy who wrote this stuff about POD is a jerk, but I cannot believe that he made up the quotes from the POD members.
i mean they use foul language, instead of f....ing they simply say frigging.
And Sonny doesn't repent having smoked dope in his former times. I mean that's really not okay. What are the fans supposed to think about him ? He used drugs and doesn't repent it, but thinks it was the best time of his life. Come on, that's simply impossible what he does.
He was also asked wether they (POD) drink,cuss or use drugs and he replied that this aren't even issues...
I mean what are issues to him when not things like drugs and stuff ??
And you cannot deny their rastafarian influences. Rastafari is all about smoking dope and not about christianity.
And why do they play this song from Bob Marley live ?
It's clearly against God. I mean sometimes I think they have no own brain to think about what they do.... Rolling Eyes


"We sick an' tired of your bulls--- game,
Die and go to heaven in Jesus name.
We know when we understand:
Almighty God is a living man.
You can fool some people sometimes,
But you can't fool all the people all the time.
And now we've seen the light (What you gonna do?),
We gonna stand up for our rights! (Yeah, yeah, yeah!)
Now, where is that in scripture? Chapter and Verse. . .?"
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have NO idea if Sonny repents from his past. NO IDEA. I will base NOTHING off what you saw on those sites because all of it was put there for the purpose of misinforming people like you... and it worked.

The only POD member that I have seen cuss thus far is Marcos in that interview with MTV. You know what though, I know PLENTY of Christians that cuss all the time also. They need t be taght it it wrong, but when you grow up a certain way, it is hard to get rid of that. So as my friends try and better themselves, I expect mistakes. I will treat POD no different.

Drinking is not wrong and I have no reason to say that POD does drugs. That is just idiotic to me. Christian radio scrutinizes all the music they play. If POD wasn't what they say they are, they WOULD NOT be on Christian radio at all.

I don't deny that they have been influenced by JAMAICAN ROOTS, but I just because you have JAMAICAN AND REGGAE ROOTS doesn't mean you follow Rasta. Yeah, they say Jah. So does everyother Reggae artist and islander. That is how they speak. Would is be right for me to call them sinful for this?

Absolutely not.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:01 am    Post subject: Rastafari and its Supposed Influence on Christian Music Reply with quote

Rastafari and its Supposed Influence on Christian Music

We have read a lot of lies and misinformation, now let us share some truth. PLEASE READ the links along with everthing below as it will give you A LOT of insight into all of this and you will not have to be confused anymore. Let's base things on facts now, okay.

FAQ: Rasta's beliefs and Marijuana as a Holy Sacrament
URL: http://www.christafari.com/faq/78da33310400009b0066/detail.html
Ex-Rastafarian Mark Mohr answers this question at the web site of his Christian raggae band, Christafari.
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...must come to the understanding that the use of Marijuana is not a sacrament. There are no scriptures in the Bible in which God commands man to smoke marijuana.

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...God's message for today's Rastafarians is: Do not be high on ganja which is an occult practice and a sin that leads one away from God. Instead, be filled with the Holy Spirit. Learn how to commune with God through the Spirit filling you.


FAQ: Christian Reggae?
URL: http://www.christafari.com/faq/78da3334040000950063/Christian+Reggae?.html
Ex-Rastafarian Mark Mohr answers this question at the web site of his Christian raggae band, Christafari.
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Yes. I guess you could say that we have crossed over. But I have made sure that we are taking the CROSS over with us!

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I think that a lot of the confusion is based on their lack of understanding of the music and its history. Believe it or not, reggae music initially started in the church. And its history since then has been no worse than any of the other countless genres of music that are now openly embraced by the CCM market.

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...I model my life after Jesus, the most controversial individual of all time. Another controversial person was William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army. He realized that the church of his day was not reaching those on the streets and in the bars. So he took old perverted drinking songs and simply changed the lyrics so that they would glorify God. What followed was one of the greatest revivals in England. In fact, many of the traditional hymns sang in churches today where written in such a manner. This is what we have set out to do for this generation.


FAQ: Jah - Why do we use the name?
URL: http://www.christafari.com/faq/78da4b050000660066/Jah+-+Why+do+we+use+the+name?.html
Ex-Rastafarian Mark Mohr answers this question at the web site of his Christian raggae band, Christafari.
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In my rejecting of the lordship of Jah Ras Tafari, I had thrown out the Jah with the Rastafari. I strongly believed that using the name Jah was calling upon the name of a false god. I held this belief for some time until I met another dreadlocked Christian reggae vocalist who reminded me that Jah was in fact a biblical name for God...

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...many parishioners still do not feel comfortable using the term Jah for God. In fact many would like to completely strike it from their vocabulary due to its present day inference to Rastafari. However, we must remember that it was God's name first, long before Haile Selassie ever walked the earth. By this time we should realize that it is standard procedure for Satan to take scriptures from the Bible and twist them towards darkness. If you recall, when Jesus was in the desert fasting for forty days, he was tempted by Satan who misquoted the scriptures to fit his own purpose...

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Since Rastafarians use the name Jah does this mean that Christians should never use it again? Let me answer this question by posing yet two other questions. Since Jehovah Witnesses seem to have taken over the name Jehovah should Christians no longer use this appellation? Furthermore, should we abandon the name of our Messiah because Mormons have taken his name and used it in the title of their church; "The Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints"?



Now, if you question any groups Raggae and Rasta base or roots, I hope this cleared everything up. I encourage you to learn more about Christafri also. They are a GREAT group and an awesome witness. Check out their mission statement and everything they do...
URL: http://www.christafari.com/ministry/

For more info on the religion of Rastafari, the following link will do a lot of good.
URL: http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/r19.html


I hope things are clear now.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest this whole Rastafari thing doesn't interest me a bit. I mean they can do whatever they want to, they can smoke pot or not. I don't care and I also don't like Raggae music. Many POD songs like "set your eyes to Zion" or "Without Jah nothing" are simply bothering me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stryper wrote:
To be honest this whole Rastafari thing doesn't interest me a bit. I mean they can do whatever they want to, they can smoke pot or not. I don't care and I also don't like Raggae music. Many POD songs like "set your eyes to Zion" or "Without Jah nothing" are simply bothering me.

What do you mean it doesn't interest you?! Why the heck do you flip out so easily about all this stuff then? Once again, I take a long time to research something and no response. You know, I am trying to to just clear things up and you don't care.

If you want to learn about those songs and clear this up, read the links. If you have no interest, then please stop implying that you do and making me think that you actually care.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only care about wether POD are real or fake, this is the only thing which interests me cause if they're fake I'll trash my cds.
I don't wanna know all this stuff about Rastafari and whatever.
Even if this Rastafari thing is okay, doesn't mean that POD are okay. It's all relative.
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