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CHRISTAFARI's RESPONSE TO "THE ESSAY" |
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INTRODUCTION |
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In a lenghty articly,
Christafari Founder Mark Mohr responded to
the book Christafarianism. Here you can find
the complete text with added footnotes. This
is not the follow-up for this essay, but an
analysis of this Response.
As you will see, the Book
Christafarianism has caused Mark Mohr to
change his definiton of Rastafari. For him,
a Rasta is now either a "Selassie
Worshipper" or a Deceiver. You will see
Mark Mohr giving an "political correct
apologie" to the Deceivers for
"lumping them into the Selassie
Worshippers category.
You will see him boldly
announcing how he perpetuates his personal
use of Rastafarian and Christian elements in
order to further his aim of "plugging
the gap in the industry".
You will see him prefering a
babylonian term over a Biblical NAME
when speaking about the Most High.
You will see how he claims
that he "makes christians", which
he presents as "fruits of my
efforts". Mohr says his efforts have to
be seen as seperate from JAH works, and even
even claims that JAH reaps "the fruits
of my efforts" where the Bible says it
is all JAH works.
The response also contains a
set of blatant lies which in itself explain
the reason why he doesn't provide one single
quote or referance to back up his many false
claims.
Mark Mohr exposes how he has
two different gospels to preach. And how if
you critisize one gospel he's hiding behind
the other in a very clever way.
The response reveals the
mind-set of Mark Mohr, which is explained
and analysed with links to academic studies
that back this up. A mind-set that has no
problem in using Rastafarian symbology and
Christian principals, only to transform it's
meaning into a marketing technology. Not
even when these symbologies and expressions
are admittedly not "unbiblical".
Mark Mohr still has to change the meaning of
Rastafarian symbology in order to serve his
aims.
You will also see how Mark
Mohr accuses Messian Dread of illegal use of
copywritten material, where Christafari has
stolen at least one Dubroom Review and
illegally put it on the Christafari Website
without asking permission.
You will see how Christafari
has changed that review into a piece which
says to forget about "the ever
enigmatic Yabby You and Messian Dread,
because here is a True Christian Roots
Artist."
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INTRODUCTION |
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Mark
Mohr's
Response The
The
Essay
With
Footnotes
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| Mark
Mohr's
Response
to
"The
Essay" |
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| Messian
Dread's
footnotes
to
"Mark
Mohr's
Response" |
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| As
I
am
writing
this
post,
I
am
both
wounded
and
frustrated
by
a
senseless
feud
between
the
veteran
accuser
and
myself.
Since
1986
this
individual
has
been
contentious
against
Christafari
and
our
core
listeners
in
reggae
forums
and
even
more
recently
in
the
forum
at
lionofzion.com. |
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| As
the
reply
contains
a
lot
of
misrepresentation
of
facts,
the
innocent
typo
in
the
introduction
is
only
a
funny
illustration
to
which
I
simply
draw
some
innocent
attention.
Because
in
the
year
1986
Mark
Mohr
was
still
in
his
own
words,
a
"Rasta".
He
means
to
say
the
year
1996.
What
Mark
Mohr
wants
to
say,
is
that
he
and
I
are
having
contact
since
that
time.
initially,
he
asked
for
my
help
because
of
the
trouble
he
was
in,
and
I
tried
to
help
him
out.
The
"feud"
came
later,
after
I
began
to
criticize
Mark
Mohr
for
spreading
false
information
about
Rastafari
and
not
rectifying
it
in
public.
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MORE
ON
THE
SUBJECT
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| My
face-to-face
meeting
in
the
UK,
recent
forum
discussions
and
last
Q
and
A
interview
with
him
seemed
amicable,
so
you
can
imagine
how
surprised
I
was
to
find
that
for
the
last
few
years,
he
has
simply
been
gathering
ammunition
for
his
longest
ranting
of
all.
Even
worse,
he
has
been
"baiting"
our
listeners
and
my
pastor
in
his
undercover
reasoning
sessions.
Now
that
his
true
intentions
have
come
to
light
I
am
appalled! |
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| Let
me
complete
the
list
of
"contacts"
a
little.
I
have
repeatedly
try
to
address
my
concerns
in
private
in
the
period
1997-2001.
Then
I
wrote
my
article,
and
he
asked
me
-again-
not
to
go
public
but
wait
until
he
would
publicly
acknowledge
what
he
now
finally
does
in
this
response.
I
have
waited
from
2001
to
2004
for
this
and
then
I
went
public.
A
few
days
later:
there
was
the
public
acknowledgement.
I
tried
to
keep
my
cool
and
stay
humble,
waiting
for
this...
In
the
beginning,
back
in
1997,
he
replied
with
mails
such
as
that
I,
"as
fan",
should
be
happy
to
receive
an
email
from
a
"star"
(really).
Later
he
called
me
a
"prominent
in
Christian
Reggae"
in
another
attempt
to
keep
me
from
going
public
with
my
concerns.
I
have
tried
to
address
my
concerns
in
a
face
to
face
meeting
with
him,
but
further
then
an
-indeed-
amicable
vibe
and
some
private
exchange
of
things
I
couldn't
get.
In
short,
I
have
found
a
closed
door
whenever
I
tried
to
address
my
concerns
with
Christafari
in
private
from
1997
until
2004.
Then
I
decided
I
really
had
to
go
public
with
my
concerns
or
wait
until
I'm
dead.
Mark
Mohr
has
been
aware
of
my
concerns
since
1997.
He
acknowledges
some
of
them
in
private
from
2001
and
on.
They
are
no
surprise
to
him.
I
did
not
have
an
undercover
reasoning.
I
simply
asked
Bob
Beeman
about
the
connection
between
sanctuary
and
lion
of
Zion.
I
even
gave
Bob
Beeman
the
quote
in
my
article
and
asked
him
to
confirm
what
I
wrote.
So
yes,
I
have
done
research
and
asked
people
questions.
I
wanted
my
essay
to
be
as
documented
as
possible.
If
I
would
not
do
research,
the
response
would
be
that
I
had
no
proof
of
my
thesis.
But
now
I
have,
and
not
a
single
time
does
he
respond
to
even
one
of
them
in
his
whole
Response.
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MORE
ON
THE
SUBJECT
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| I
object
to
his
constant
misuse
of
quotes
and
wish
that
if
someone
were
going
to
wrongfully
quote
copy-written
material,
they
would
at
least
get
the
context
right.
Given
this,
I
ask
that
he
not
quote
any
of
this
post
in
any
of
his
writings
on
his
website
unless
he
publishes
it
in
its
entirety
so
as
to
avoid
any
further
misconceptions.
Now
I
would
like
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
he
has
brought
up. |
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always
provide
links
and
where
necessary
the
original
material
so
people
can
check
out
for
themselves
if
I
actually
quote
something
in
or
out
of
context.
The
laws
concerning
copyright
clearly
give
permission
for
using
material
to
review,
research
or
criticize.
Even
unpublished
material
can
be
used
legally.
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MORE
ON
THE
SUBJECT
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Misuse
of
copy-written
material
would
be,
for
example,
to
place
a
Dubroom
review
on
the
Lion
of
Zion
website
without
permission
to
sell
a
CD.
Which
is
a
thing
Lion
of
Zion
has
actually
done.
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| CHRISTAFARIANS
AND
CHRISTAFARIANISM:
First
off,
I
am
sorry
that
he
has
grossly
misunderstood
our
use
of
the
word
"Christafarian".
It
is
not
a
belief
system
or
sect
of
faith.
The
word
has
only
personally
been
used
a
few
times
to
my
knowledge.
First,
it
was
the
original
name
of
my
band
Christafari.
Second,
it
has
been
used
in
past
Lion
of
Zion
updates
in
reference
to
our
listeners.
It
was
never
used
to
describe
a
certain
belief
system.
When
I
think
of
the
term
"Christafarian,"
I
think
about
a
supporter
or
admirer
of
our
music.
Not
a
convert
that
has
been
conformed
to
my
ways.
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Mohr
is
not
"a
musician
with
a
band
and
fans"
only.
His
biography
is
called
"Meet
Pastor
Mark"
for
years.
I'm
sure
he's
gonna
change
that
now,
but
it
doesn't
take
away
the
fact.
Further
in
his
article
he
also
says
how
he
wants
to
make
converts
out
of
his
listeners.
He
"ministers"
to
them
and
provides
lists
with
numbers
of
"saved
souls".
He
writes
doctrinal
statements
and
articles
while
he
constantly
refers
to
his
works
as
a
"ministry"
and
teachings.
In
private
correspondence
he
even
referred
to
his
wife
as
a
"his
most
important
ministry".
He
considers
himself
to
be
a
spiritual
example
for
others,
as
he
repeatedly
states
in
various
articles.
When
he
was
having
a
divorce
and
people
criticized
him
for
having
that,
they
pointed
out
to
the
very
same
fact.
They
stressed
that
Mark
Mohr
is
considered
a
teacher
by
many
people.
Mark
Mohr
acknowledged
that
and
listed
his
phone
number.
Everyone
could
ask
him
everything
about
his
divorce
because
of
"accountability".
It
is
clear,
that
Mark
Mohr
does
not
consider
his
listeners
just
that,
listeners
to
his
music.
And
his
listeners,
whom
he
called
Christafarians,
look
up
to
him
as
a
teacher.
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most
recent
use
of
this
name
was
found
in
a
question
asked
in
a
recent
interview
that
was
posted
on
www.christafari.com.
I
was
asked,
"Why
do
you
feel
so
many
people
get
hooked
into
CHRISTAFARIANISM?" |
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notice
how
Mohr
seamlessly
goes
over
from
describing
Christafarians
into
describing
Christafarianism.
So
I
can
assume
Christafarians
are
adherents
of
Christafarianism. |
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is
a
word
play
on
Rastafari.
Mark
Mohr
denies
this
and
says
it
means
community
of
Christ.
Okay...
Members
of
this
"community
of
Christ"
are
Christafarians.
But
I
shouldn't
compare
them
with
members
of
the
community
of
Christ,
of
which
he
is
a
pastor.
For
then
he
says,
a
Christafarian
is
not
a
member
of
the
community
of
Christ.
Kind
of
confusing,
but
I'm
not
the
one
who
authors
this
confusion.
It's
another
hole
in
the
facade...
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answer
was
simple:
"Our
music
is
original
and
unlike
anything
out
there
in
the
Christian
industry.
This
unique
roots
sound
cannot
be
replaced
by
the
latest
industry
manufactured
pop
sensation
that
is
on
the
cover
of
CCM.
We
have
created
our
own
culture
within
our
fan
base.
And
these
fans
are
diehard.
We
may
not
have
a
huge
crowd
every
night
when
we
are
out
on
tour,
but
the
ones
that
come
truly
understand
what
we
are
trying
to
accomplish
and
often
drive
as
far
as
5
states
away
just
to
fellowship
with
us
and
praise
God
through
reggae
music."
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| As
you
can
see,
Mark
Mohr
says
I
misinterpretate
"Christafarian"
and
says
the
latest
use
was
in
the
quote
you
see
left.
I
don't
see
the
word
Christafarian,
I
do
see
the
word
Christafarianism
in
the
question
(previous
paragraph).
I
also
see
an
admittance
that
Christafari's
work
is
published
in
what
he
calls
the
"Christian
Industry".
I
see
Mark
Mohr
defining
Christafarianism
literally
as
"our
own
culture
which
we
created
within
our
fan
base".
Then
I
see
how
he
proposes
this
culture
as
an
alternative
to
what
he
calls
"the
latest
industry
manufactured
pop
sensation
that
is
on
the
cover
of
CCM".
He
describes
this
culture
as
"fellowshipping
and
praising
God"
which
seems
like
something
completely
different
then
just
a
band
with
some
fans.
Especially
not
when
you
know
that
Christafari
claims,
that
Mark
Mohr
is
"chosen
by
God
to
be
a
leader
like
Moses
and
David
to
plug
the
gap
in
the
Industry".
Literally.
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do
you
feel
God
chose
you
to
plug
this
gap
in
Christian
music?
(...)
this
is
how
God
works,
(...)
once
again,
this
is
how
God
works.
(...)
he
chose
me
(...)
this
is
how
he
chooses
leaders;
from
Moses
(...)
to
King
David
(...)
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LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
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| So
where
he
presents
his
"ministry"
as
only
a
band
with
fans
when
I
criticize
this
ministry,
he
presents
it
as
a
"ministry"
when
he
talks
to
the
Christafarians.
Proof
of
that
and
it
is
right
there
on
the
Christafari
website. |
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LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
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SEARCH
GOOGLE
FOR
MORE
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| As
you
can
see,
the
above
question
was
not
referring
to
a
cult
that
I
have
started--heaven
forbid.
I
am
simply
referring
to
those
who
love
our
music.
As
I
am
being
accused
of
starting
some
dangerous
brew
of
Babylon
Christianity,
I
now
realize
that
I
should
have
corrected
this
Brazilian
interviewer,
stating
that
I
represent
"Christafari,"
a
band,
not
"Christafarianism,"
a
religious
movement.
For
though
I
am
an
ordained
pastor,
(a
title
that
I
very
rarely
use
to
describe
myself,
and
one
that
I
never
use
to
lord
myself
over
others),
for
years
I
have
tried
to
make
it
crystal
clear
where
we
stand;
I
am
a
born
again,
baptized,
gospel
preaching
Christian. |
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| He
might
say
that
he
should
have
said
the
journalist
that
his
band
was
only
a
band,
but
in
fact
he
is
just
repeating
the
same
argument
which
I
commented
on
in
the
previous
paragraphs.
And
yes,
he
might
say
now
that
he
did
not
start
a
"cult",
but
I
have
never
suggested
this
in
the
first
place.
I
do
however
remind
Mark
Mohr
to
the
fact
that
he
says
Christafarians
are
members
of
"the
culture
we
created
with
our
fan
base".
I
point
out
to
the
fact
that
he
also
uses
the
word
"cult"
and
"culture"
interchangeably
in
his
many
descriptions
of
what
he
calls
"Rastafarianism".
And
actually,
I
am
only
mentioning
it,
not
even
draw
a
conclusion
from
it.
Another
word
he
uses
interchangeably
is
"gospel".
But
there
are
two
completely
opposing
definitions
of
the
word
"gospel".
The
Message
of
Salvation
to
sinners
is
one.
A
music
genre
in
the
Christian
Industrial
Complex
or
CCM
is
another.
He
"preaches
the
gospel",
but
he
also
has
a
"gospel
reggae"
band.
When
I
criticize
the
preaching
of
the
"first
gospel"
aspect,
his
reply
can
be
summarized
as
"just
a
band
with
just
a
fan
base",
a
reference
to
the
second
definition.
With
that
he
admits,
between
the
lines,
how
his
band
and
music
should
only
be
seen
as
such:
a
band
with
music.
That
is
the
other
gospel.
I'm
not
making
it
that
difficult,
but
I
do
think
the
necessity
for
a
research
center
with
a
group
of
researchers
and
analysts
is
quite
obvious.
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| It
is
not
my
desire,
nor
has
it
ever
to
make
little
Christafarians,
out
of
our
fan-base.
I
simply
want
to
see
more
people
become
Christians.
In
fact,
I
have
always
been
against
starting
another
Christian
denomination
of
believers
(even
at
the
Gathering,
a
church
that
I
helped
plant).
As
believers,
we
are
all
a
part
of
the
universal
body
of
Christ.
We
need
more
unity
not
division,
a
lesson
that
my
accuser
should
consider
prayerfully. |
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| Now
he
changes
to
the
first
definition
of
"gospel".
We
have
already
seen
how
he
says
that
he
created
a
culture
in
the
industry
containing
"Christafarians",
he
quoted
it
himself
in
his
answer
to
describe
who
HE
means
are
the
Christafarians.
They
are
members
of
"Christafarianism"
in
his
own
admittance.
Christafari's
live
agenda
is
a
list
of
concerts
at
evangelizing
projects
from
local
churches
from
many
different
denominations.
But
Mark
Mohr,
as
a
pastor,
"plants
churches"
as
well.
There
he
teaches
lessons
about
the
Christian
Industry
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LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
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| and
other
subjects.
His
"ministry"
is
a
weird
mix-up
of
"the
two
gospels"
which
is
in
the
same
time
his
defense
mechanism.
Be
criticized
for
one
"gospel",
hide
behind
the
other. |
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also
notice
that
here
he
starts
calling
me
"divisive".
Later
on
I
will
elaborate
on
that
aspect. |
|
|
| They
will
know
that
we
are
Christians
by
our
love,
not
our
debates
or
senseless
arguments
over
superficial
issues
in
the
public's
eye.
You
want
to
know
my
intentions?
I
will
make
them
very
clear.
It
is
my
wish
to
see
our
listeners
(and
all
who
have
ears
to
hear)
come
in
agreement
with
the
Holy
Scriptures
as
outlined
in
the
Nicene
Creed
and
as
I
have
described
in
our
teaching
statement. |
|
| This
is
a
description
of
preaching
the
first
gospel.
However,
this
very
same
person
also
states:
"God
Chose
Me
To
Plug
The
Gap
In
The
Industry
With
The
Culture
We
Created
With
Our
Fan
Base
Called
Christafarianism".
I
also
quickly
note
that
Mark
Mohr
calls
the
Bible
and
the
Nicene
Creed
as
well
as
his
own
"teaching
statement".
His
own
teachings
I
will
fully
criticize
later
on.
|
|
|
| To
satisfy
your
curiosity,
I
have
posted
our
doctrinal
statement
below
so
that
you
can
see
what
we
stand
for.
This
writing
is
also
found
in
the
recently
updated
FAQ
section
of
lionofzion.com: |
|
|
|
| OUR
DOCTRINE:
WE
TEACH
that
there
is
one
God,
eternally
existing
in
three
persons:
Father,
Son,
and
Holy
Spirit.
(Genesis
1:1,26;
Matthew
28:19;
John
1:1-3,
4:24;
Acts
5:3-4;
Romans
1:20;
2
Corinthians
13:14;
Ephesians
4:5-6)
|
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
Jesus
Christ
was
conceived
by
the
Holy
Spirit,
and
born
of
the
Virgin
Mary,
and
is
fully
God
and
fully
man.
(Matthew
1:18-25;
Luke
1:26-38;
Romans
9:5;
Titus
2:13) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
the
Bible
is
the
complete,
inspired
Word
of
God,
without
error
in
its
original
manuscripts.
The
Bible
is
our
supreme
and
final
authority
in
faith
and
life.
(Isaiah
40:8;
Matthew
5:18,
24:35;
2
Timothy
3:16;
Hebrews
4:12;
2
Peter
1:20-21) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
man
was
created
in
the
image
of
God,
that
he
sinned
and
thereby
incurred
not
only
physical
death
but
also
spiritual
death
which
is
separation
from
God,
and
that
all
human
beings
are
born
with
a
sinful
nature,
and
become
guilty
sinners
in
thought,
word
and
deed.
(Genesis
1:26-27;
3:1-24;
Romans
3:25,
5:12-18;
1
John
1: |
|
| I
believe
that
too...
Although
I
don't
believe
that
man
has
an
eternal
soul.
I
believe
Jah
gives
souls
eternal
life
as
a
gift. |
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
the
Lord
Jesus
died
for
our
sins
according
to
the
Scriptures
as
a
representative
and
substitutionary
sacrifice;
that
He
bodily
rose
victorious
from
the
grave
on
the
third
day;
and
that
all
who
believe
in
Him
are
justified
on
the
basis
of
His
shed
blood.
(Matthew
20:28,
28:6;
John
3:16;
Romans
3:24-26,
5:1,
10:9;
1
Corinthians
15:3,
14;2
Corinthians
5:21;
Ephesians
1:7;
1
John
2:2) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
the
personal
and
imminent
return
of
our
Lord
Jesus
Christ.
(Acts
1:11;
1
Thessalonians
4:16-17) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
all
who
come
by
grace
through
faith
to
accept
the
Lord
Jesus
Christ
are
born
again
of
the
Holy
Spirit
and
thereby
become
children
of
God
forever.
(John
1:12-13,
3:3-5;
Ephesians
2:8-9;
James
1:18;
1
Peter
1:23)
WE
TEACH
that
while
without
faith
it
is
impossible
to
please
God,
the
possession
of
faith
does
not
ensure
health
or
prosperity.
(Luke
9:22-27;
2
Corinthians
11:23-31,
12:7-10;
Philippians
1:29-30;
2
Timothy
3:8-12;
Hebrew
11:6,
32-40) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
the
bodily
resurrection
of
the
just
and
unjust,
the
everlasting
joy
of
the
saved
and
the
everlasting
conscious
punishment
of
the
lost.
(Matthew
25:31-46;
John
5:28-29;
1
Corinthians
15:12-57;
2
Corinthians
5:10;
Revelation
20:4-6,
11-15) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
all
Christians
are
baptized
by
the
Holy
Spirit
and
permanently
indwelt
by
Him
at
the
point
of
salvation.
The
filling
of
the
Holy
Spirit
is
meant
to
be
a
continuous
experience
for
the
believer
through
submission
to
His
controlling
authority
and
power.
(John
14:16,
15:5;
Romans
6:3-5,
8:9-11;
1
Corinthians
12:13;
Ephesians
5:15-21) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
that
the
body
of
Christ,
the
church,
is
composed
of
interdependent
members
who
are
born
again,
each
having
received
from
the
Holy
Spirit
gifts
which
are
to
be
exercised
for
the
building
up
of
the
whole
body.
No
one
gift
is
given
to
all
believers
nor
indicates
regeneration,
filling,
or
baptism
with
the
Holy
Spirit.
(Romans
12:4-8;
1
Corinthians
12:12-13;
Ephesians
2:14-20,
4:4-16) |
|
|
|
| WE
TEACH
baptism
(by
submersion
in
water)
in
the
name
of
the
Father,
the
Son
(Jesus)
and
the
Holy
Spirit.
Baptism
is
not
necessary
for
salvation.
It
is
an
outward
demonstration
of
the
individual's
inward
conviction
and
a
matter
of
obedience
to
our
Lord.
We
teach
that
Christ
commanded
His
church
to
baptize
believers
as
a
proclamation
of
their
faith
and
identification
with
Him
and
His
church,
and
to
celebrate
communion
as
a
living
memorial
of
His
redemptive
death
and
as
a
reminder
of
present
fellowship
with
Christ
and
His
body.
(Matthew
28:18-20;
Acts
2:28-47,
8:36-40,
10:47,
18:8;
Romans
6:3-5;
1
Corinthians
11:23-29) |
|
|
|
| Again,
It
is
not
my
desire
to
make
"Christafarians,"
only
Christians.
I
challenge
anyone
that
wishes
to
follow
me
in
this
endeavor
to
follow
Christ
instead.
Let
us
work
together
side-by-side.
I
am
merely
a
humble
saint
that
is
challenged
daily
by
sin.
I
do
not
ever
wish
to
lead
anyone
astray.
This
is
why
I
remain
accountable
to
local
pastors
such
as
Gwynn
Lewis
and
Ken
Vroom.
This
is
why
I
slave
to
fill
our
lyrics
and
posts
with
Scripture
and
give
our
listeners
a
decided
direction
in
their
lives--towards
God,
not
towards
me.
I
simply
want
to
see
people
become
lovers
of
the
Word
of
God. |
|
| Now,
again.
Almost
seamlessly
has
he
changed
the
subject
from
being
a
band-leader
with
fans
to
being
a
pastor.
Is
it
still
so,
that
I
can
not
criticize
some
of
Mohr's
teachings
without
running
into
the
"band
leader",
but
the
"band
leader"
turns
out
to
be
a
"pastor"
who
wants
to
make
"Christians"
according
to,
among
other
things,
"his
teachings".
So
he
keeps
running
in
this
circle
of
two
gospels.
|
|
|
| Many
of
you
reading
this
may
wonder
"who,
or
what
I
am
referring
to?"
Forgive
me
for
not
going
into
details,
but
I
refuse
to
draw
attention
to
such
biblically
unfounded
misstatements.
This
would
add
fuel
to
his
flame. |
|
| I
find
this
a
very
cheap
reason
for
the
refusal
to
quote
me
or
debate
me
in
public.
Mind
you,
he
also
didn't
want
to
talk
about
my
concerns
in
private.
After
all,
everything
is
just
a
"senseless
argument"
and
"debate".
In
reality,
Mark
Mohr
is
aware
that
his
argumentation
and
thesis
can
never
stand
the
test
of
scrutiny.
|
|
|
| Others
understand
what
I
am
responding
to
and
have
read
the
texts
that
have
recently
been
deleted
from
our
forum.
I
am
sure
that
it
is
clear
to
you
that
when
you
read
a
writing
like
this,
you
have
to
consider
the
subject
AND
the
source.
My
music,
my
doctrine,
my
lyrics,
the
fruits
of
this
ministry
and
my
life
in
Christ
over
the
past
15
years
reveal
the
truth.
Consistency
speaks
volumes
and
the
fruit
does
reveal
the
root. |
|
| I
agree
wholeheartedly
with
the
statements,
that
the
fruits
reveal
the
roots.
Fruits
which
are
not
necessarily
good,
as
Mark
Mohr
admits
and
apologizes
for
in
this
very
publication.
I
also
agree
that
it
is
impossible
to
separate
the
"Pastor"
from
the
"Band
leader".
But
if
that
is
so,
you
can't
say
that
I
should
make
this
separation
in
my
critique!
|
|
|
| CAN
A
RASTA
BE
A
CHRISTIAN?
In
short--"yes".
I
do
acknowledge
that
there
are
certain
self
proclaimed
Rastas
that
deny
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie
and
believe
that
Jesus
is
Lord.
I
praise
God
for
these
brothers
in
the
Lord
that
have
seen
the
truth.
So
yes,
some
rastas
may
be
Christians
and
some
Christians
do
consider
themselves
rastas.
On
this
point
we
can
agree
and
I
apologize
for
lumping
all
Rastafarians
into
the
category
of
"Selassie
Worshipers"
in
the
past.
Yet
this
concession
comes
nowhere
close
to
justifying
this
person's
slander.
|
|
|
This
is
not
a
recently
discovered
in-sight
and
the
fact
that
he
knows
he
should
apologize
in
public
for
it,
is
also
not
new
to
him.
In
fact,
it's
almost
since
ancient
times...
The
mere
publication
of
my
concerns
have
brought
him
to
fulfill
the
promise
he
made
seven
years
ago.
He
calls
it
a
"concession".
How
can
acknowledging
a
fact
be
labeled
as
a
concession?
A
concession
to
what,
and
from
what?
Not
a
concession,
but
a
confession
would
be
it
it's
place,
right
there
on
the
left
hand
side.
|
|
|
| While
the
most
common
description
of
a
Rasta
is
"someone
who
worships
Haile
Selassie
(Ras
Tafari)
as
Lord,"
there
are
various
houses
of
Rastafari,
and
many
even
conflict
with
each
other
in
doctrine.
For
14
years
I
went
on
mission
trips
to
Jamaica
and
never
met
one
"Rasta"
that
denounced
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie.
Given
my
personal
experiences,
for
a
very
long
time
I
used
the
general
term
"Rasta"
to
describe
such
a
person.
But
I
realize
now
that
there
is
also
a
growing
fringe
of
Rasta
believers
that
deny
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie
and
worship
Jesus
Christ
alone.
So
to
assume
that
all
Rastas
are
not
saved
could
be
wrong
and
such
a
judgment
is
unfair.
Please
forgive
me. |
|
| Mark
Mohr
told
me
personally
that
it
was
the
transcript
of
an
interview
with
the
Prophet
Gad
of
the
12
Tribes
Of
Israel
Organization
which
I
transcribed
and
published
with
authorization
of
Gadman,
that
introduced
him
to
the
fact
that
there
are
different
houses
of
Rastafari
and
that
there
are
many
Rastas
who
subscribe
to
the
statements
of
the
prophet
Gad.
This
means,
that
he
knows
all
of
this
for
many
years
but
never
acknowledged
it
in
public.
Are
you
being
truthful
when
you
first
admit
facts
in
a
response
to
a
publication
where
your
denial
of
these
facts
is
exposed?
There's
another
little
aspect
in
this
paragraph.
It
seems
to
have
totally
passed
his
attention,
that
there
was,
in
his
words,
"a
growing
fringe
of
Rasta
believers
that
deny
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie
and
worship
Jesus
Christ
alone".
But
wait
a
minute.
Didn't
he
say
to
the
Christian
Media
that
HE
was
the
one
who
was
called
by
God
to
"achieve"
that?
I
just
mention
it...
|
|
|
| To
further
clarify
my
stance
regarding
this,
I
have
modified
the
following
FAQs
and
replaced
the
word
"Rastafarian"
with
the
now
politically
correct
term
"Selassie
worshippers".
The
following
FAQs
now
reflect
these
changes
among
others:
"What
is
the
difference
between
Rastafari
and
Christafari"?,
The
reggae
stigma,
Red,
yellow
and
green,
How
to
witness
to
a
Rasta,
How
did
you
get
your
calling?,
What
do
we
believe?,
Bob
Marley,
and
Should
Christians
call
themselves
"Rastas?". |
|
| And
what
does
this
apology
mean,
when
it's
described
with
words
like
"concession",
and
on
your
left
even
as
"political
correct"?
I'll
briefly
quote
from
a
study
that
defines
"political
correctness".
Even
more
important:
the
mind-
sets
that
make
people
use
political
correct
language.
|
| At
its
core,
political
correctness
(...)
rejects
the
Judeo-Christian
tradition
and
its
notion
of
revealed
truth
(...) |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| One
can
laugh
over
quoting
an
academic
analysis.
But
think
about
it:
why
using
the
word
"political
correct"
unless
you're
applying
it?
Besides,
the
whole
response
of
Mark's
article
radiates
what
the
academic
describes.
Mark
Mohr
calls
his
"apology"
a
"political
correct"
one.
This
means,
he
uses
the
idea
of
political
correctness
in
his
way
of
thinking.
When
he's
not
simply
concealing
an
unwillingness
to
acknowledge
a
fact,
that
is.
|
|
|
| However,
I
still
do
not
agree
with
a
Christian
calling
himself
a
"Rastafarian."
I
personally
view
this
as
misleading
and
a
compromise
of
verses
such
as
Psalm
16:4.
Though
I
love
these
brothers,
I
am
in
sharp
disagreement
with
such
an
approach. |
|
| When
you
go
back
to
the
analysis
of
"political
correctness",
and
you
may
have
thought
that
it
was
too
much,
think
again.
Here
we
see
a
practical
application
of
the
post-modern
way
of
thinking
of
which
political
correctness
is
a
part
of.
Mark
Mohr
acknowledges,
that
Rastas
can
be
Christian.
That
means
he
doesn't
have
to
evangelize
them.
He
doesn't
have
to
teach
to
stop
being
a
Rasta
in
order
to
be
saved.
Still
he
calls
them
deceivers
and
he
doesn't
see
the
illogical
reasoning
behind
it.
It's
perfectly
normal
to
call
your
brother
a
deceiver
and
when
one
points
you
out
to
that,
you
call
that
one
"divisive".
|
|
|
| A
NEW
START:
I
love
Rastafarians
and
I
pray
for
them
often.
I
do
not
view
them
as
racist
or
hateful
people,
nor
would
I
ever
say
such
a
thing
to
the
press.
In
the
same
way
that
Selassie
worshippers
may
want
me
to
accept
the
divinity
of
His
Imperial
Majesty,
I
long
for
them
to
truly
follow
his
teachings
and
worship
the
TRUE
CHRIST.
In
this
vast
difference
in
views
many
toes
have
been
stepped
on.
For
this
I
apologize.
|
|
| Another
proof
that
his
"political
correct
apology"
has
no
real
substance,
is
the
paragraph
on
the
left.
As
you
can
see,
he
still
uses
the
words
"Rasta"
and
"Selassie
Worshippers"
interchangeably.
And
he
perpetuates
his
own
position
as
being
consciously
anti-Rasta.
Rasta
is
"them",
even
when
"they"
are
Christians
according
to
his
own
definition
given
in
this
article.
Even
though
he
admits
the
difference
is
vast
and
the
hurt
is
worth
an
apology,
he
chooses
to
perpetuate
ignoring
the
difference
and
calls
it
"political
correct".
When
your
thinking
doesn't
lead
you
to
realizing
this
clear
contradiction,
your
action
are
post-modernism
in
practice.
Just
look
to
the
academic
definition:
|
| What
is
being
rejected
is
the
hope
that
truth
exists.
Not
just
that
we
might
have
difficulty
discerning
truth,
but
that
it
is
not
there
to
be
discerned. |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| Mark
Mohr
says:
Yeah,
sure,
you
can
be
a
Rasta
in
your
born-again
situation.
I
just
happen
to
think
that
you're
a
deceiver,
even
in
your
born
again
situation. |
|
|
| I
am
also
sorry
for
the
overbearing
zeal
of
certain
Christafari
supporters
in
our
forum.
Though
I
just
recently
entered
the
Rasta
Reasoning
forum
for
the
first
time
in
a
very
long
while,
I
should
have
tried
harder
to
keep
any
individual
from
being
disrespected
or
maligned.
This
problem
has
prayerfully
been
fixed
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
this
forum
become
a
healthy
environment
of
respectful
reasoning. |
|
| When
you
apologize
for
behavior
of
your
"supporters",
then
you
feel
responsible
for
their
behavior.
When
you
then
apologize
for
not
"keeping"
people
from
"doing
something",
you're
really
not
only
a
band
leader
with
fans.
I
also
like
to
add,
that
this
"problem"
is
absolutely
not
only
present
on
the
Christafari
forum.
I
wish
it
were
so.
|
|
|
| In
addressing
the
problem
head-on,
I
have
decided
to
start-a-new.
I
have
cleaned
out
all
old
posts
in
the
Rasta
Reasoning
thread.
While
some
may
be
vexed
at
such
a
move,
others
will
applaud
my
actions.
Some
times
you
must
do
some
serious
house
cleaning
to
get
rid
of
germs.
For
those
who
have
been
offended
by
Christafari
listeners,
these
offenses
have
been
removed
(and
vice
versa).
Let's
start
from
scratch
and
behave
like
honorable
adults
from
now
on. |
|
| Of
course
the
deletion
of
the
messages
were
to
prevent
people
from
checking
out
what
was
the
case
on
the
message
board.
Or
as
he
puts
it,
"For
those
who
have
been
offended
by
Christafari
listeners,
these
offenses
have
been
removed
(and
vice
versa)."
In
a
phone
conversation
with
Mark
Mohr
he
told
me
many
times:
"I
want
to
fix
this
problem
now".
I
have
answered
him
an
equal
number
of
times
that
the
problem
was
already
out
there,
leading
it's
life,
making
it's
problems.
Some
problems
can't
be
"fixed"
easily.
This
is
one
of
them.
|
|
|
|
Mark
Mohr's
Response The
The
Essay
With
Footnotes
2
|
| Mark
Mohr's
Response
to
"The
Essay" |
|
| Messian
Dread's
footnotes
to
"Mark
Mohr's
Response" |
|
|
| ALL
THINGS
TO
ALL
MEN:
You
have
often
heard
me
quote
1Corinthians
9:19
"Though
I
am
free
and
belong
to
no
man,
I
make
myself
a
slave
to
EVERYONE,
to
win
as
many
as
possible."
For
me
this
"everyone"
includes
reaching
Selassie
worshippers
(those
under
the
Law).
I
have
become
all
things
to
ALL
MEN
so
that
by
all
possible
means
I
might
save
some
(1
Cor
9:22).
If
you
read
the
context
of
this
passage
you
can
see
that
Paul
was
referring
to
spiritual
groups
not
just
cultural
ones
(i.e.
those
under
the
law,
those
not
under
the
law,
the
Jews,
etc..).
|
|
| Now
he
moves
on
to
Christafarianism
itself.
The
teachings
of
Christafari.
This
is
where
we
clearly
step
out
of
the
band
and
fan
facade
and
step
into
the
doctrines.
This
is
Mark
Mohr's
"biblical"
explanation
for
his
"evangelizing"
of
"Selassie
Worshippers",
as
he
politically
correct
puts
it.
This
is
where
he
starts
to
change
into
the
Pastor.
And
when
you
try
to
have
a
theological
debate
on
that,
his
answer
is
that
he
is
only
a
band
leader
with
a
fan
base.
For
an
in-depth
analysis
of
Mohr's
scriptural
explanation
for
his
way
of
"spreading
the
gospel"
(or
"plugging
the
gap"),
see
the
book
"Christafarianism".
In
short:
he
says
that
he
goes
to
Rastas
dressed
up
as
a
Rasta
without
being
a
Rasta
because
a
Rasta
would
not
listen
to
a
man
with
a
suit
and
tie
but
only
to
someone
who
also
looks
like
them.
This
is
nonsense,
because
Marcus
Garvey
was
a
Christian
with
a
Suit
And
Tie
and
he
was
very
much
accepted.
It
is
also
an
insult
to
state
that
Rastas
would
listen
to
someone
who
looks
like
them
only
to
show
them
that
they
are
wrong.
They
immediately
recognize
this
as
a
"wolf
in
sheep's
clothing
method
which
it
is".
Does
he
"smell
competition"?
Given
the
fact
that
Christafarianism
is
in
itself
a
strange
mix
of
Babylonian
marketing
manipulation
technology
this
is
not
a
totally
irrelevant
question.
Mark
Mohr
calls
Rastas
who
he
does
not
have
to
evangelize
and
who
might
fit
the
description
he
gives
about
himself
much
better
because
they
don't
have
to
put
up
some
act
"deceivers".
But
who
is
the
deceiver
here?
|
| Oh
yes,
Mark
Mohr
points
out
that
Paulus
speaks
about
"spiritual
groups".
Later
on
it
will
become
clear
why
he
says
so.
For
now,
please
notice
it. |
|
|
| This
is
why
in
the
past
I
have
used
the
name
"Jah,"
a
term
that
is
found
in
the
Bible,
but
most
popular
for
its
use
by
Rastafarians…
To
reach
Selassie
Worshippers. |
|
| Rastas
call
the
Most
High
by
His
Biblical
Name
JAH.
They
do
so
because
everyone
speaks
about
"god",
or
even
"gods",
but
JAH
is
His
NAME.
And
He
leads
us
for
HIS
NAME's
SAKE,
as
the
Bible
teaches
us.
In
the
Bible,
there's
a
huge
difference
between
a
term
and
a
Name.
Especially
when
we
speak
about
the
Name
of
the
Most
High!
The
word
"god"
(his
preference)
however,
has
no
biblical
roots.
It's
a
word
from
pagan
tribes
which
can
be
used
for
anything
which
is
sacrificed
to.
|
| The
word
God
is
derived
from
the
old
Teutonic
form
gudo
which
means
that
which
is
invoked
(or
worshipped)
by
sacrifice
(cf.
Oxford
English
Universal
Dictionary,
art.
God,
p.
808).
This
was
adapted
among
the
Teutonic
tribes
in
the
variant
forms. |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
God
can
variously
be
defined
as:
- the
proper
name
of
the
one
Supreme
and
Infinite
Personal
Being,
the
Creator
and
Ruler
of
the
universe,
to
whom
man
owes
obedience
and
worship;
- the
common
or
generic
name
of
the
several
supposed
beings
to
whom,
in
polytheistic
religions,
Divine
attributes
are
ascribed
and
Divine
worship
rendered;
- the
name
sometimes
applied
to
an
idol
as
the
image
or
dwelling-place
of
a
god.
|
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
|
SEARCH
GOOGLE
FOR
MORE
|
| I
notice,
how
Mark
Mohr
prefers
to
use
a
babylonian
"term"
which
can
be
applied
to
almost
anything
but
the
Most
High*
instead
of
the
Biblical
Name
of
the
Creator. |
| *=A
term
with
an
European
origin
can
of
course
never
be
the
Name
of
JAH,
as
the
roman
pope
wants
us
to
believe
in
the
quoted
piece |
|
|
| This
is
why
I
often
use
the
colors;
red,
yellow,
green
and
black.
These
colors
that
represent
Africa
were
given
significance
by
the
honorable
Marcus
Mosiah
Garvey
(a
Christian)
and
then
later
adopted
by
Rastafarians.
God
created
these
colors
and
I
find
nothing
wrong
with
wearing
them
in
this
sequence…
To
reach
Selassie
Worshippers. |
|
| The
reason
why
Rastas
prefer
the
colors
of
red
gold
and
green
is
indeed
because
they
point
to
Africa.
But
why
Africa?
This
is
a
thing
you
never
hear
Christafari
about.
They
don't
care.
They
found
a
nice
slogan
to
dressup
like
a
Rasta.
That's
all.
Why
not
Europe?
After
all,
that's
where
the
term
"god"
comes
from.
The
so-called
"Judeo
Christian
Civilization".
Hmmm...
Rastas
(and
other
conscious
people
such
as
Yesus
Dreads)
|
|
WHAT
IS
A
YESUS
DREAD
|
| don't
really
"use"
like
Mark
Mohr
.
They
speak
a
message.
It
is
a
way
of
"Chanting
Down
Babylon".
They're
a
direct
opposing
of
the
Red
White
and
Blue
of
Babylon.
A
rejection
of
the
system
that
keeps
people
in
bondage. |
| A
Jamaican
poet
explains
it
as
such:
"African
Order,
to
counteract
the
New
World
Order,
meaning
Equal
Rights
And
Justice
To
All".
Regardless
what
your
stance
on
Selassie
is
or
may
be,
the
colors
are
to
show
BABYLON
that
they
will
fall,
not
"Selassie
Worshippers"
that
they
have
to
"become
like
a
Rasta"
and
speak
about
"god".
Because
this
is
exactly
how
most
Rastafarians
and
Yesus
Dreads
perceive
Christafari's
message
when
they
deeply
check
it.
|
|
|
| This
is
why
I
wear
dreadlocks.
Initially
worn
by
the
likes
of
Sampson,
Samuel,
and
John
the
Baptist,
this
statement
has
presently
become
the
most
common
identifier
of
Rastafarians….
To
reach
Selassie
Worshippers. |
|
| Being
a
dread
is
something
completely
different
than
having
dreadlocks.
Mark
Mohr
calls
it
"the
common
identifier
of
Rastafarians".
Again
an
interchangeable
use
of
Rasta
and
Selassie
Worshipper,
especially
in
the
light
of
him
calling
Rastas
either
deceivers
of
Selassie
Worshippers
of
which
he
wants
to
divide
himself
from,
an
interesting
explanation
for
wearing
dreadlocks.
He
has
them
stricktly
for
cosmetic
reasons,
as
his
explanation
of
Paulus
"all
things
to
all
men"
reveals,
but
that
doesn't
make
you
a
dread.
Samson,
Samuel,
and
John
the
Baptist
wore
dreadlocks
to
scare
the
Babylonians
and
Pharisees
with
a
symbol
of
their
separation
from
Babylon
System
and
the
coming
wrath
of
JAH
on
their
heads.
Today,
a
Dread
would
"use"
Red
Gold
and
Green,
and
call
upon
the
NAME
of
JAH
rather
then
"use"
a
proven
Babylonian
"term".
And
a
Dread
would
never
"use"
these
colors
to
symbolize
Selassie
not
being
JAH.
That's
not
what
the
colors
say,
and
that's
not
what
it
means
to
say
JAH
rather
than
"god".
Personally,
I
use
the
term
"god"
to
reach
Babylonians.
But
I
call
upon
His
Name
JAH
in
my
prayers
when
I
not
simply
call
Him
"Father".
|
|
|
| This
is
why
I
use
reggae
music,
a
genre
that
many
would
say
was
birthed
in
the
Christian
Church
in
Jamaica
and
was
made
popular
worldwide
by
Rastafarians
such
as
Bob
Marley…
To
reach
Selassie
Worshippers. |
|
| Again,
a
strong
divisivement
between
Rastafarians
and
"the
Christian
Church".
An
interchangeable
use
of
"Rasta"
and
"Selassie
Worshippers".
In
contrast
with
"Christian"
on
the
other
hand.
A
Rasta,
in
Mark
Mohr's
"political
correct
update"
is
either
a
"Selassie
Worshipper"
or
a
"Deceiver".
In
both
cases,
he
opposes
them
to
the
"Christian
Church".
Which
Christian
Church?
Certainly
not
the
"Universal
Brotherhood
of
Christ",
of
which
he
acknowledges
"a
growing
fringe
of
Rastafarians"
to
have
a
place.
And
Reggae
is
not
born
in
the
"Christian
Church".*
It
is
born
in
JAMAICA.
Many
people
attributed
to
this.
The
people
of
the
world
owe
THE
PEOPLE
OF
JAMAICA
enormous
gratitude
for
the
gift
of
REGGAE
MUSIC.
It
has
gone
international,
but
every
non-Jamaican
Reggae
Artist
(I
am
one)
will
always
respect
that
Roots
to
the
fullness.
And
not
limit
it
to
some
vague
term
as
"The
Christian
Church".
For
it
was
not
the
Universal
Body
Of
Christ
which
gave
birth
to
Reggae.
It
was
(AND
IS)
the
people
of
Jamaica,
whether
they
"go
a
church"
or
"stay
a
yard".
|
| *=
Somebody
I
know
once
had
his
Internet
signature
quoting
Mark
Mohr
stating
how
the
Christian
Church
gave
birth
to
Reggae
to
which
he
commented
with
"I
finally
know
where
the
term
slackness
comes
from
then"
for
which
he
was
threatened
with
a
lawsuit.
Although
I
am
not
a
fan
of
slackness
at
all,
I
do
know
that
it
has
always
been
a
part
of
Reggae
as
much
as
the
spiritual
aspect
has
been
there. |
|
|
| This
is
why
I
use
the
image
of
the
Lion
of
Judah
and
named
my
record
company
"Lion
of
Zion".
Initially
found
in
Revelation
6
and
used
to
describe
Jesus
Christ,
the
Lamb
of
God,
this
image
has
since
been
adapted
by
Ethiopia,
and
later
the
Rastafarians…
To
reach
Selassie
Worshippers. |
|
| Ethiopian
Orthodox
view
of
Selassie
is
that
he
symbolizes
the
coming
reign
of
JAH.
That's
why
he
is
called
Lion
of
Judah
or
"Ikon
of
Christ
In
His
Kingly
Character".
It
is
by
no
means
an
Ethiopian
adaption
of
Revelation
6.
Revelation
6
is
a
reference
to
the
Book
of
Enoch,
just
like
the
Ethiopian
Emperors
are.
It's
older.
A
spiritual
significance
which
is
very
important
but
never
acknowledged
by
Christafari.
And,
just
like
all
the
Rastafarian
and
Christian
elements
you
can
recognize
in
Christafarianism,
the
original
meaning
an
significance
are
either
ignored
to
corrupted.
How
can
you
possibly
"use"
the
Ethiopian
Image
of
the
Lion
of
Judah
to
"reach"
Selassie
Worshippers?
The
only
logic
behind
it
can
be
found
back
in
marketing
books.
Not
in
the
Bible.
|
|
|
| I
am
not
ashamed
of
these
actions,
for
to
adopt
such
things
is
not
a
sin.
It
is
not
like
I
am
praying
to
Ras
Tafari
(Selassie)
or
smoking
marijuana
as
a
sacrament.
I
am
simply
being
"all
things
to
all
men"
so
that
"for
the
sake
of
the
gospel
I
might
win
some."
And
through
the
work
of
the
Holy
Spirit
I
have
won
some.
As
you
will
see
later
in
this
writing,
this
is
where
the
real
contention
begins. |
|
| For
an
in-depth
analysis
of
this
particular
way
on
interpretation
the
Bible,
I
refer
to
my
book
Christafarianism.
In
the
meantime
it
is
clear,
that
this
whole
situation
is
not
about
a
band
with
fans.
And
Mark
Mohr's
"response"
also
doesn't
sound
like
that
anymore,
either.
As
a
pastor,
he
"plants
churches"
and
"makes
Christians"
(not
Rastafarians).
His
outward
appearance
and
transforming
of
Rastafarian
symbology
into
something
Christafarian
are
the
marketing
tools
for
which
he
defends
himself
by
saying
that
it
is
only
a
band
with
fans.
But
in
the
same
time
he
has
a
complete
biblical
interpretation
around
it.
And
he
stresses
the
fact
that
he
has
taken
away
all
the
things
he
calls
"Sinful".
The
combination
of
the
Band
Leader
with
the
fans
and
the
Pastor
planting
churches
and
isn't
so
far-sought
from
my
side,
but
rather
well
hidden
from
his
part.
Mark
Mohr
got
this
philosophy
from
the
Sanctuary
Movement.
Friend
and
foe
admit
this.
He
was
ordained
as
a
pastor
in
this
same
movement.
This
enables
him
to
plant
churches
and
to
"create
a
culture
with
the
fans".
The
sanctuary
movement
comes
out
of
the
Satanistic
heavy
metal
culture
and
-perhaps
unwittingly-
inspired
Mark
Mohr
to
treat
Rastafarians
like
Satanists.
When
you
exchange
"metal"
for
"reggae"
and
"Satanistical
metaller"
for
"Rastafarian"
(or
"Selassie
Worshipper"),
this
becomes
unmistakably
clear,
though,
and
the
house
of
cards
begins
to
fall.
From
a
really
in-depth
analysis
of
the
Sanctuary
movement,
I
quote
the
following:
|
| Sanctuary
members
then
sought
to
discern
what
Christ's
lordship
over
what
Christians
wear
means
when
reaching
out
to
people
associated
with
the
heavy
metal
subculture.
They
tried
to
demonstrate
"concrete
situational
discernment."
Christ's
lordship
in
light
of
dress
and
appearance,
both
within
Christian
culture
and
outside
it,
was
really
the
important
obsession
for
church
members. |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| And
this
is
indeed
where
the
contention
begins.
I
find
the
fact
that
Mark
Mohr
treats
Rastafarians
like
Satanists
very
offensive.
That
he
makes
JAH
say
so
by
giving
this
a
biblical
explanation
and
presenting
it
as
"making
Christians"
I
find
straight
out
blasphemic.
This
is
exactly
why
I
pointed
out
to
the
fact
that
there
are
Rastas
who
do
not
fit
Mohr's
description
of
"people
who
have
to
hear
the
Gospel
through
my
Rasta
Imitation".
For
years,
and
years,
I
humbly
pointed
out
to
this
fact.
To
make
him
realize
what
he
was
doing!
Now
he
has
to
admit
that
not
all
Rastas
are
"Selassie
Worshippers".
He
even
planted
a
church
with
a
Rasta
in
Trinidad.
But
still
he
calls
them
"Deceivers"
and
refuses
to
be
a
part
of
it.
Instead
he
clearly
identifies
with
"The
Christian
Church".
He
stresses
his
differentiation
by
using
the
theology
of
"Sanctuarism"
to
"reach
the
Satanists".
Just
like
the
people
at
Sanctuary
do
not
want
to
be
a
Satanist,
Mark
Mohr
does
not
want
to
be
a
Rasta
and
instead
wants
to
reach
them.
Like
the
people
at
Sanctuary
are
trying
to
reach
the
Satanists.
Unfortunately,
the
whole
theology
of
Christafari
is
based
on
Sanctuary
and
the
activitities
mainly
take
place
within
the
Christian
Industrial
Complex
too.
Mark
Mohr
treats
Rastas
as
Satanists
and
his
acknowledgement
of
the
fact
that
there
are
Rastas
who
he
would
consider
as
"a
brother
in
Christ"
has
not
made
him
realize
this.
The
tragedies
that
follow
as
a
result
of
his
"created
culture"
are
numerous.
They
started
soon
after
Christafari
left
the
grounds
of
BIOLA
UNIVERSITY
and
"encountered"
the
first
Rastas.
The
tragedies
grew
analogue
with
the
"plugging
of
the
gap
in
the
Christian
industry".
And
they
will
continue
to
grow
as
long
as
Mark
Mohr
keeps
teaching
his
"ways
of
spreading
the
gospel".
The
Christafari
Message
Boards
were
a
tip
of
the
proverbial
iceberg.
The
tragedies
have
come
to
a
proportion
in
the
year
2004,
that
deleting
a
forum
surely
doesn't
"fix
the
problem".
Because
it
starts
right
there,
with
the
first
posting.
The
"Response
of
Mark
Mohr
To
The
Essay".
In
it,
he
"boldly"
announces
that
Rastafarians
for
him
now
are
either
Selassie
Worshippers
or
Deceivers
and
he
apologizes
to
the
Deceivers
for
lumping
them
in
the
Category
of
Selassie
Worshippers.
Then
he
claims
God
chose
him
to
"plug
the
gap".
He
is
called
to
be
a
leader
in
evangelizing
to
the
Rastas.
But
when
he
is
confronted
by
another
iceberg,
namely
that
of
the
"growing
fringe
of
Rasta
believers
that
deny
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie
and
worship
Jesus
Christ
alone",
he
is
surprised!
He
surely
wasn't
any
part
of
that.
He
was
to
busy
calling
them
deceivers
and
treating
them
like
Satanists.
And
people
who
were
trying
to
tell
this
to
him
were
silenced
and
are
silenced
until
this
day.
I
have
numerous
private
responses
to
my
essay
in
which
people
express
their
total
agreement
with
me
but
say
that
they
prefer
to
try
to
tell
this
to
Mark
Mohr
personally.
I
wish
them
a
lot
of
success
from
this
place.
A
place
with
a
history
of
seven
years
doing
exactly
that.
I
really
don't
want
to
say
too
much
about
the
reason
why
Mark
Mohr
calls
Rastas
whom
HE
acknowledges
as
Christian
"Deceivers".
But
if
he
acknowledges
that
these
"brothers
in
Christ"
as
he
calls
them
are
born
again
in
the
Holy
Spirit,
he
says
with
that,
that
the
Holy
Spirit
gives
birth
to
Deceivers.
I
don't
believe
that
JAH
creates
deceivers.
And
that
is
indeed
exactly
where
the
real
contention
begins.
|
|
|
| OFFENDING
RASTAS:
Over
a
month
ago
I
wrote
a
Christafari
update
that
spoke
of
our
last
performance
in
Amsterdam
while
on
my
band's
European
Tour;
"
And
God
saved
the
best
show
for
last,"
I
wrote,
"for
it
was
in
Amsterdam
where
even
Rastas
held
up
their
hands
after
the
sinners
prayer!"
|
|
| Mohr
only
responds
to
examples
which
he
has
been
confronted
with.
Not
really
the
other
ones.
This
is
an
indication
that
he
is
living
in
an
ivory
tower
and
has
absolutely
no
idea
what's
going
on
outside
of
this
little
world.
You
can
also
see
how
the
stories
about
the
long
list
of
"saved
souls"
needs
a
little
side
noting.
During
a
"tour",
at
the
last
concert
"even
Rastas
held
up
their
hands".
And
Mohr
was
actually
quite
surprised.
Every
time
something
like
this
happens,
Mohr
speaks
his
of
his
surprise.
Remember
the
"growing
fringe"
he
didn't
notice?
Here's
another
one...
|
|
|
| I
should
have
clarified
in
this
writing
that
the
individuals
were
"Selassie
Worshippers".
Please
forgive
me.
But
I
will
not
apologize
for
leading
the
audience
(including
these
Rastas)
in
the
sinner's
prayer. |
|
| How
did
he
know
they
were
"Selassie
Worshippers"?
Did
he
speak
to
them
from
the
stage
and
did
he
listen?
Or
did
he
look
to
the
"common
identifier
of
Rastafarians"?
No,
he
only
realizes
that
he
should
have
called
them
"Selassie
Worshippers"
because
he
can
not
argue
against
the
criticism
that
he
receives
for
his
facade.
You
can
also
see
how
he
has
not
really
an
urge
to
be
accurate
in
his
statements.
"Leading
the
audience
in
the
sinners
prayer"?
All
of
them?
You
see,
it's
very
easy
to
say
things.
Easy
to
say
that
you're
saving
souls
as
a
daily
occupation.
It's
another
thing
to
actually
do
it.
Most
Christafari
concerts
are
not
Christafari
concerts
at
all.
They
are
being
invited
by
local
churches
who
are
doing
the
best
they
can
to
reach
out
to
their
surrounding.
Then
they
invite
Christafari
to
reach
out
to
their
neighbors.
Christafari
takes
the
mike
and
speaks
the
evangelical
correct
language
and
considers
that
to
be
their
work.
Do
you
even
hear
a
thing
about
people
who
invite
them?
No.
You
only
hear
about
the
many
souls
who
are
saved
by
Christafari.
This
is
also
a
marketing
technique,
straight
out
of
the
book
of
the
televangelists!
It
makes
people
think
that
they
want
to
invite
Christafari.
Or
support
them
with
money
for
the
mission
work
they
do.
It's
all
about
"plugging
the
gap
in
the
industry".
|
|
|
|
Mark
Mohr's
Response The
The
Essay
With
Footnotes
3
|
| Mark
Mohr's
Response
to
"The
Essay" |
|
| Messian
Dread's
footnotes
to
"Mark
Mohr's
Response" |
|
|
| In
his
host
of
hurtful
words,
the
writer
has
accused
me
of
lumping
all
Rastas
into
one
category.
Yet
in
his
tirade,
he
then
went
on
to
lump
all
Christafarians
(as
if
there
is
such
a
thing)
and
evangelicals
into
the
same
category,
grossly
ignoring
the
vast
differences
between
each
of
our
listeners. |
|
| Now
that
Mark
Mohr
apologized
to
the
Deceivers
for
lumping
them
in
the
Selassie
Worshippers
category,
he
continues
with
a
tactique
we
often
see
with
little
children.
For
some
reason,
he
claims
that
I
"lump
all
Christafari
listeners
into
the
same
category".
He
doesn't
say
how
and
where.
Again
he
claims
a
thing
without
backing
it
up,
telling
his
readers
they
have
to
trust
him.
Hmm...
Here
the
real
reason
why
Mohr
refuses
to
quote
me
comes
to
the
surface.
As
he
already
admits,
he
doesn't
want
his
readers
to
check
for
themselves
if
his
claims
are
true.
He
calls
it
a
copyright
infringement
when
I
quote
him
in
accordance
with
the
US
laws
on
copyright
to
show
my
readers
where
I
get
my
info
from.
He
doesn't
tell
his
readers
how
he
stole
a
Dubroom
Review
and
put
it
on
the
Lion
of
Zion
website
without
even
asking
permission.
Don't
bother
looking
for
it,
though.
It
has
been
replaced
with
a
review
that
calls
on
the
reader
to
forget
about
the
"ever
enigmatic
Yabby
You
and
Messian
Dread"
and
choose
"a
true
Christian
roots
artist."
|
| But
what
about
Christian
Dub
artists?
Besides
Christafari's
one
release
(DUB
Sound&Power)
and
the
ever
enigmatic
Yabby
You
and
Messian
Dread,
many
have
searched
long
and
hard
for
a
true
Christian
roots
artist
that
is
devoted
to
DUB
100%
of
the
time.
Search
no
longer:
introducing
Solomon
Jabby,
AKA
"The
Dub
Revelator." |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| Mark
Mohr
calls
Christian
Rastafarians
deceivers,
and
Yesus
Dreads
"ever
enigmatic".
He's
not
a
Rasta,
being
a
Yesus
Dread
is
an
enigma
for
him,
but
he
claims
that
God
chose
him
to
reach
the
Rastas.
Yabby
You
and
Messian
Dread.
They
are
an
enigma
for
Mark
Mohr.
Is
that
because
both
artists
incidentally
don't
happen
to
have
any
interest
in
being
sold
on
"Lion
of
Zion"?
Just
like
the
unsubstantial
claim
that
I
call
myself
a
Rasta.
A
lie
which
is
being
parroted
by
people
who
take
Mark
Mohr
for
his
word.
But
nobody
can
give
the
quotes
that
would
back
up
Mohr's
claims.
Mohr's
claims
that
I
"lump
all
Christafari
listeners
in
the
same
category"
are
just
as
unsubstantiated.
|
|
|
| Christafari
has
performed
at
secular
clubs,
Rastafarian
festivals,
reformed
Mormon
conferences,
Lutheran,
Baptist,
Methodist,
Evangelical,
Covenant,
Presbyterian,
Pentecostal,
Four
Square,
Catholic
and
non
denominational
churches
(to
just
name
a
few).
Our
listeners
come
from
all
walks
of
life,
various
doctrinal
stances,
different
denominations
and
very
few
of
them
even
have
dreadlockes.
This
double
standard
is
a
blatant
flaw
in
his
hypocritical
essay. |
|
|
The
"flaw"
is
so
blatant
that
he
can't
provide
one
single
quote.
He
says
Christafari
plays
at
many
churches
and
even
sometimes
outside
of
the
Christian
Industrial
Complex.
So
what?
I
have
reported
on
Christafari's
performance
at
Sunsplash
Tour,
for
example.
He
now
says
that
I
don't
mention
he
has
played
on
tours
like
Sunsplash
and
calls
it
a
"blatant
flaw"
and
sign
of
hypocrisy.
His
main
argument
for
that
is
that
he
calls
his
listeners
"Christafarians".
For
a
definition
of
Christafarians
he
points
out
to
an
interview
where
he
refers
to
his
fans.
So
everybody
who
listens
to
Christafari
is
a
fan?
No,
because
in
other
publications
he
says
that
Christafarians
are
members
of
the
"Community
of
Christ".
But
in
this
description
of
the
Christafarians
he
stresses
that
they
are
not
only
Christians
and
when
they
are
Christians
they
come
from
different
denominations.
Here's
the
Band
Leader
again,
hiding
the
Pastor
for
too
much
critique.
The
point
is,
as
we
have
seen
before,
that
Mark
Mohr
has
two
gospels
to
spread.
The
first
one
is
his
message
of
"Be
like
a
Rasta,
but
don't
Be
a
Rasta",
and
the
second
one
is
simply
"buy
my
music
or
visit
my
concerts".
When
I
criticize
his
teachings
concerning
"being
all
things
to
all
men",
the
first
gospel,
he
responds
by
saying
that
he's
performing
for
aaaaall
kinds
of
people.
The
second
gospel.
Plugging
the
Gap
in
the
Industry.
|
|
|
| And
even
worse,
my
accuser
is
so
frustrated
that
I
had
lumped
all
Rastas
into
the
same
category
that
he
overlooked
the
fruit
of
my
efforts.
People
are
getting
saved.
Selassie
worshippers
are
regularly
coming
to
Christ. |
|
| Now
he
changes
back
to
be
a
pastor
again.
Now
he
wants
to
change
all
those
Christafarians
(see
the
list
in
the
previous
paragraph)
into
Christians.
Mohr
seems
to
think
my
main
frustration
is
that
he
"lumped
all
Rastas
into
the
same
category".
And
therefore
he
makes
his
own
categories:
Selassie
Worshippers
and
Deceivers.
Now
I
can't
say
anymore
that
he
lumps
all
Rastas
into
the
same
category,
and
they're
still
all
baaaad.
Problem
fixed...
My
problem,
one
of
my
main
concerns,
however
is
written
in
the
paragraph
on
the
left.
It's
easily
overlooked.
But
let
me
quote
him.
"the
fruit
of
my
efforts.
People
are
getting
saved."
Forget
about
the
churches
that
invite
him.
Forget
about
the
thousands
of
people
who
send
him
thousands
of
dollars.
Forget
about
the
thousands
of
people
who
pray
for
him.
Forget
about
giving
praises
to
JAH.
Indeed.
Mohr's
efforts.
Mohr's
fruits.
People
get
saved.
But
it's
not
about
that,
it's
about
a
band
with
fans,
right?
What
is
it?
Which
gospel
will
Mark
Mohr
choose
in
the
end?
His
efforts,
or
JAH
works?
Why
does
he
call
Rastafarian
Christians
deceivers.
Why
are
Yesus
Dread
enigmatic
to
him?
Let
me
quote
him:
"Selassie
worshippers
are
regularly
coming
to
Christ."
Now
let
me
quote
him
a
few
paragraphs
earlier.
For
14
years
I
went
on
mission
trips
to
Jamaica
and
never
met
one
"Rasta"
that
denounced
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie.
Given
my
personal
experiences,
for
a
very
long
time
I
used
the
general
term
"Rasta"
to
describe
such
a
person.
But
I
realize
now
that
there
is
also
a
growing
fringe
of
Rasta
believers
that
deny
the
divinity
of
Haile
Selassie
and
worship
Jesus
Christ
alone.
Now
what
does
this
say?
He
says
"Selassie
Worshippers
(Rastas)
regularly
come
to
Christ",
but
in
14
years
time
he
has
never
met
a
Rasta
who
had
come
to
Christ,
and
he
was
surprised
to
find
out
that
Rastas
were
actually
In
Christ
without
his
notice!
So
that's
why
he
calls
them
deceivers
or
"enigmatic"
when
he
can't
call
them
Rasta.
It's
not
the
fruits
of
his
efforts,
as
he
so
arrogantly
calls
his
claims.
And
this
is
important
to
realize.
Because
Rastafarians
and
Yesus
Dread
know
what
it
means
to
carry
Red
Gold
and
Green.
They
know
why
it
is
important
to
call
on
the
Name
JAH.
For
them,
wearing
dreadlocks
isn't
a
tool
to
get
acceptance.
But
all
these
things
and
more
become
mere
marketing
tools
in
the
hands
of
Mark
Mohr.
Marketing
Tools
to
plug
a
gap
in
an
industry.
Forget
about
the
first
gospel.
For
then
he
wouldn't
call
his
brother
deceivers
and
enigmatic.
But
these
brothers
are
an
obstacle
in
his
aims,
because
they
oppose
his
commercial
use
of
Rastafarian
symbology.
He
takes
every
significance
out
of
the
red
gold
and
green.
His
only
argument
is
that
they're
"Christian".
But
he
doesn't
say
why
these
colors
are
Christian
and
why
they
point
to
Africa
and
not
to
American
of
the
Netherlands
where
I
live.
He
doesn't
say
so,
because
he
doesn't
know.
It's
an
enigma
for
him,
or
a
deception.
He
can
not
"evangelize
the
Rastas"
as
he
calls
it
in
the
next
paragraph,
without
having
to
use
Rastafarian
symbology
as
marketing
tools
without
any
meaning.
People
who
know
the
true
meaning,
biblical
meanings,
are
deceiver
and
enigmatic.
Is
that
the
gospel,
or
is
that
a
need
to
"plug
the
gap"
by
discrediting
the
"competition"?
|
|
|
| Should
we
stop
all
evangelization
of
all
Rastas
because
some
of
them
may
already
be
Christians?
Absolutely
not. |
|
| The
associated
Press
has
called
Mark
Mohr
someone
who
can
come
up
with
a
"snappy
slogan. |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| This
is
one
of
them.
He
has
explicitly
said
what
his
"methods
of
evangelizing"
are.
They
include
calling
his
Christian
brothers
"deceivers".
Every
time
Christafari
will
"evangelize
the
Rastas",
they
will
show
their
difference
with
the
Yesus
Dreads
and
for
example
the
12
Tribes
Rastas.
So
all
Rastas
know,
that
Christafari
are
not
Yesus
Dreads
or
Rastafarians.
With
that,
Christafari
clearly
signals
the
message
that
their
gospel
is
a
different
one
then
the
gospel
where
for
example
the
Yesus
Dreads
and
12
Tribes
Rastas
refer
to.
For
most
Rastas,
there
are
two
different
Christs.
For
the
apostle
Paulus
too,
by
the
way.
Rastas
know,
that
Babylon
with
her
red
white
and
blue
"god"
and
"dreadlock
hairstyles"
has
also
a
Geezus.
Rastas
equally
know,
that
the
Saviour
of
the
Yesus
Dreads
and
the
12
Tribes
is
the
Yesus
of
which
Haile
Selassie
was
the
Defender.
And
while
Christafari
may
think
that
they
are
"preaching
the
gospel",
they
are
signaling
the
babylon
trademark
by
constantly
stressing
how
THEY
are
NOT
Rastafarian.
Even
Yesus
Dreads
are
enigmatic.
|
|
|
| EVANGELICAL:
I
am
a
non-denominational
born
again
Christian.
In
his
writing
I
have
been
accused
of
being
an
evangelical--as
if
that
is
a
bad
thing.
The
word
Evangelical
comes
from
the
Greek
word
evangelon
and
simply
means
"one
who
evangelizes"
or
"a
preacher
of
the
gospel".
So
yes,
I
am
an
evangelical
Christian.
I
know
some
people
that
have
gone
to
a
Christian
church
their
whole
life
and
never
heard
the
gospel--what
a
shame.
That
would
never
happen
in
my
home
church.
|
|
| And
again
it
becomes
clear
that
Mark
Mohr
doesn't
quote
me,
because
he
can
then
freely
say
lies
about
me.
Here
is
another
lie.
I
have
never
"accused"
him
of
being
an
evangelical.
Let
me
quote
myself
in
the
essay
of
which
Mark
Mohr
says
he
responds
to
in
this
article
of
his.
|
| Now,
do
I
see
the
evangelical
movement
as
being
similar
to
Xianity
?
No,
I
do
not.
I
grew
up
in
a
Pentecostal
enviroment.
The
Pentecostal
church
is
originally
a
black
church
and
can
be
considered
a
part
of
the
world
wide
evangelical
movement.
Generally
spoken,
the
evangelicals
have
a
sound
view
on
the
Person
of
Yesus
Kristos
and
Xianity
obviously
preaches
a
false
Christ
.
In
fact,
the
evangelicals
form
one
of
the
many
reform
movements
aimed
at
taking
the
people
out
of
the
ungodly
Babylonian
system
into
a
genuine
form
of
worshipping
the
Father
through
Kristos.
But
on
the
other
hand,
there
are
many
Babylonian
influences
to
be
found
in
the
evangelical
movement
.
Many
evangelical
churches
make
use
of
marketing
schemes
in
their
proselyting
efforts
.
Not
to
mention
the
use
of
very
authoritative
hierarchical
systems
when
it
comes
to
organizing
the
churches.
This
all
in
complete
contradiction
to
the
Biblical
message
of
freedom
and
equality.
|
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| Mark
Mohr
says
that
in
his
church
people
will
hear
the
gospel
and
in
some
other
churches
not.
Compare
it
with
his
statement
that
all
Christians
from
all
denominations
are
part
of
the
Body
of
Christ,
and
smile.
It's
worse
than
what
I
say
about
the
evangelicals...
|
|
|
| I
do
not
take
the
Great
Commission
lightly.
After
all,
it
is
our
COMMISSION
from
Christ,
not
a
mere
SUGGESTION. |
|
| More
manipulation.
As
his
readers
can
not
verify
if
Mohr's
statements
are
accurate,
they
will
assume
that
I
have
stated
somewhere
that
"The
Great
Commission"
is
a
suggestion.
But
he
can't
quote
me
saying
so.
And
therefore
he
does
it
like
this.
He
simply
states
it
and
doesn't
refer
to
the
material
that
makes
him
say
so.
The
reason
for
this
is,
as
he
stated
in
the
beginning,
that
he
doesn't
want
to
"fuel
the
fire".
No,
indeed.
Because
if
people
would
really
know
the
scam,
the
fire
would
get
hotter....
I
simply
refer
to
the
picture
of
the
Black
Yesus
on
top
of
almost
every
page
on
the
Dubroom.
When
you
put
your
mouse
on
the
picture
you
will
read
"Yesus
Kristos".
And
when
you
click
on
it,
you
will
read
about
the
Gospel.
The
real
one.
|
|
|
| Where
I
live
the
gospel
is
presented
often
at
church,
camps,
conferences,
festivals,
etc…
When
this
happens,
usually
at
least
half
of
the
audience
in
attendance
is
made
up
of
believers.
So
are
they
offended
when
they
hear
this
gospel
message
again?
Absolutely
not!
It
is
actually
comforting
to
hear
the
gospel
message
and
know
that
you
have
already
responded
to
it.
It
is
reassuring
to
be
reminded
that
you
are
going
to
heaven. |
|
| And
what
would
happen
if
the
preacherman
would
call
one
half
of
the
conference
deceivers
and
the
other
half
unsaved? |
|
|
| Should
an
evangelist/preacher
at
a
crusade
stop
giving
his
message
because
half
of
the
audience
has
already
heard
it?--Absolutely
not.
I
would
give
this
message
(and
have)
if
everyone
in
the
audience
but
one
has
already
believed. |
|
| Should
a
preacher
stop
preaching
if
he
can
only
bring
his
message
by
calling
his
brothers
in
Christ
deceivers? |
|
|
| If
you
had
seen
any
of
the
Christafari
shows
on
our
last
2004
tour
you
would
have
heard
the
Gospel
of
Jesus
Christ
preached
in
love
and
sensitivity,
but
without
compromise.
You
would
have
seen
hundreds
of
people
getting
saved.
Are
you
willing
to
deny
these
salvations
because
we
disagree
on
a
few
superficial
issues? |
|
| Ah,
the
big
list
again.
The
many
souls.
Of
course,
as
stated
earlier,
the
fruits
of
Mark
Mohr's
efforts.
I
wonder
how
the
people
who
invited
Christafari,
who
maybe
worked
hard
to
get
Christafari
in
their
church,
would
feel
about
that.
And
is
it
a
"superficial
issue"
to
call
a
brother
a
deceiver
as
essential
part
of
your
message?
Hundreds
of
people
getting
saved?
Really?
How
do
you
know
that?
There
have
been
many
studies
and
all
of
them
point
out
to
the
fact
that
so
called
conversions
at
big
concerts
are
often
emotionally
driven.
Let
me
give
you
an
example
from
Mark
Mohr's
own
hands.
The
fruits
of
his
effort.
Not
his
vain
bragging
about
figures
at
festivals
he
didn't
even
organize
but
simple
happened
to
hold
a
mike
in
his
hand.
No,
this
is
really
the
fruit
of
HIS
efforts.
|
| In
past
years
I
have
gone
into
the
Gully
and
led
rude
boys
to
Christ.
Upon
arriving
in
the
upper
part
I
was
disappointed
to
learn
that
all
but
one
of
the
guys
that
I
had
brought
to
Christ
on
my
past
trips
were
either
dead
on
in
prison. |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| You
see,
what
he
does
is
talking
with
someone
and
say
a
little
prayer.
Then
he
goes
on
to
his
next
thing.
That
is
the
fruits
of
his
efforts.
The
bible
clearly
says
that
JAH
is
the
one
who
saves.
When
someone
gets
saved
this
is
the
fruit
of
JAH.
Not
of
Mark
Mohr
or
anyone
else.
Fire
bun
that.
Mark
Mohr
can
pretend
like
he's
some
Reggae
Billy
Graham
saving
souls
by
the
second,
but
that
is
one
of
the
things
you
see
with
the
television
preachers
all
the
time.
The
television
preachers
of
which
Mark
Mohr
is
a
welcome
guest.
And
even
when
you
could
speak
about
"man's
efforts",
they
would
not
be
Christafari's
but
the
local
believers
who
invite
Christafari.
|
|
|
| I
often
liken
our
calling
as
believers
to
that
of
the
Sower.
In
Christ's
parable
there
was
an
indiscriminant
sower,
one
who
tossed
the
seeds
of
salvation
everywhere,
relying
on
the
Holy
Spirit
to
do
the
work
of
harvesting. |
|
| In
the
Bible,
it
says
that
the
Holy
Spirit
provides
the
growth,
and
also
that
the
Holy
Spirit
is
the
One
who
adds.
But
Mark
Mohr
says
that
the
Holy
Spirit
does
the
"harvesting".
What
he
says,
is
that
Jah
reaps
the
work
of
Mark
Mohr's
hands.
I
think
this
is
a
bit
too
much
of
the
self-respect
that
I
see
reflected
in
so
many
of
Mark
Mohr's
publication.
But
this
one
really
goes
way
out
of
line.
|
|
|
| The
sad
thing
is
that
in
reading
my
accuser's
writings,
it
appears
that
he
is
more
hurt
by
the
fact
that
some
Rastas
were
mis-labeled
then
that
many
of
them
are
lost
without
Jesus.
How
can
one
get
so
tangled
up
in
a
misunderstanding
of
words
and
grossly
ignore
the
millions
of
Selassie
worshippers
that
are
going
to
go
to
hell
without
Jesus? |
|
| Remember,
Mark
Mohr
now
calls
those
Rastas
he
doesn't
need
to
"evangelize"
deceivers.
Yesus
Dreads
are
an
enigma.
He
differentiates
himself
from
both
groups
as
a
necessary
element
in
his
"gospel".
He
presents
this
"gospel"
as
bringing
Yesus
Kristos
to
those
Rastas
who
he
says
doesn't
have
Yesus
because
they
are
Selassie
Worshippers.
His
deliberate
differentiation
from
Yesus
Dreads
and
Christian
Rastas
and
his
usage
of
Rastafarian
symbology
as
a
mere
marketing
tool
to
spread
this
"gospel"
give
an
additional
message
to
that
gospel.
Also
to
the
ones
he
calls
"Selassie
worshippers
who
are
going
to
hell".
|
|
|
| Or
are
they
going
to
hell
at
all?
It
turns
out
that
this
would
prove
to
be
the
most
crucial
question
to
ask. |
|
| Anticipating
to
his
"report"
from
an
email
interrogation. |
|
|
|
Mark
Mohr's
Response The
The
Essay
With
Footnotes
4
|
| Mark
Mohr's
Response
to
"The
Essay" |
|
| Messian
Dread's
footnotes
to
"Mark
Mohr's
Response" |
|
|
| DIGGING
DEEPER:
As
I
started
to
work
on
my
response
to
his
extensive
writing,
I
was
initially
going
to
debate
my
accuser's
words
line
by
line--a
tremendous
waste
of
my
resources.
But
then
I
realized
that
this
writing
was
a
distraction
to
say
the
least.
|
|
| I
think,
that
he
found
out
that
re-publication
with
footnotes,
as
this
one,
would
show
the
readers
how
weak
his
argumentation
is.
Most
of
what
people
consider
to
be
the
best
parts
in
Mohr's
"response"
turn
out
to
be
lies
or
air
bubbles
presented
as
serious
replies.
That's
why
he
doesn't
quote
it,
doesn't
point
out
to
it,
doesn't
even
mention
my
name.
A
distraction?
yes.
"This
writing",
as
Mark
Mohr
calls
his
"Response"
is
indeed
a
distraction.
To
say
the
least.
|
|
|
| I
began
asking
myself
questions
like
"Why
would
a
self
proclaimed
believer
be
offended
if
I
witnessed
to
Rastas?"
For
even
Paul
said
that
he
would
"put
up
with
anything
rather
than
hinder
the
gospel
of
Christ"
(1Co
9:12).
And
when
confronted
with
those
preaching
the
gospel
for
the
wrong
reasons
he
acknowledged
that
at
least
the
gospel
was
being
preached: |
|
| Instead
of
replying
to
my
essay
paragraph
by
paragraph,
thus
forcing
himself
into
really
studying
the
material
like
I
do
now
with
Mohr's
"response",
he
"chose
to
ask
himself
question".
And
answer
them,
of
course.
The
wrong
questions,
of
course.
The
answer
doesn't
matter.
You
see,
he
draws
attention
to
the
"preacher"
where
I
refer
to
the
audience.
I'm
not
speaking
about
someone
who
is
"going
to
lost
souls
to
tell
them
the
Gospel".
I
am
talking
about
my
brothers
who
are
called
deceivers
and
about
other
brothers
who
are
called
"enigmatic".
|
|
|
| "It
is
true
that
some
preach
Christ
out
of
envy
and
rivalry,
but
others
out
of
goodwill.
The
latter
do
so
in
love,
knowing
that
I
am
put
here
for
the
defense
of
the
gospel.
The
former
preach
Christ
out
of
selfish
ambition,
not
sincerely,
supposing
that
they
can
stir
up
trouble
for
me
while
I
am
in
chains.
But
what
does
it
matter?
The
important
thing
is
that
in
every
way,
whether
from
false
motives
or
true,
Christ
is
preached.
And
because
of
this
I
rejoice.
Yes,
and
I
will
continue
to
rejoice."
(Phil
1:15-1 |
|
| In
fact,
this
Bible
Scripture
should
be
quoted
to
Mark
Mohr.
And
then
as
a
reference
to
the
ones
he
calls
deceivers
or
enigmatic.
|
|
|
| This
is
the
view
that
I
have
had
towards
the
plaintiff
over
the
last
8
years.
But
this
passage
does
not
calm
the
accuser's
ongoing
frustration
with
my
method
of
preaching.
"Why
is
that?"
I
asked
myself. |
|
| It
could
be,
that
Mark
Mohr
has
never
seen
I
tried
to
point
out
to
him
that
there
are
Christians
in
a
group
he
presents
as
Satanists.
Another
reason
why
he
calls
me
enigmatic.
Yet
he
never
took
the
time
to
reason
with
me
until
his
little
interrogation
after
my
essay.
I
know
quite
a
few
people
in
his
direct
surrounding
who
totally
agree
with
me.
You
know
who
you
are,
greetings.
You
still
believe
you
can
talk
some
sense
into
Mark
Mohr.
I
don't
believe
that
anymore.
|
|
|
| While
compiling
my
thoughts
on
what
I
thought
would
be
a
play-by-play
defense
of
his
accusations,
I
stopped
myself.
I
realized
that
I
was
not
allowing
God
to
be
my
defender. |
|
| Well,
I
don't
need
no
defense
myself
in
this
matter.
I
don't
feel
attacked
or
accused.
I
don't
have
to
compile
my
thoughts
but
rather
stop
myself
from
putting
too
much
down
on
this
virtual
paper.
I
have
the
most
bizarre
experiences:
It's
like
JAH
tells
me
to
look
here,
to
look
there.
When
I
ask
a
question,
I
get
an
email
from
someone,
out
of
the
blue,
telling
me
what
I
need
to
know.
I
see
the
manipulation
schemes
and
my
only
question
is:
does
Mark
Mohr
realize
what
he
is
doing
or
not?
Does
the
fact
that
he
is
criticized
put
him
in
a
state
of
defense
because
the
points
of
critique
happen
to
touch
the
foundations
of
Mark
Mohr's
"life
ministry"?
But
if
your
"ministry"
is
based
on
calling
other
people
in
the
Body
of
Christ
"deceivers"
you're
either
not
part
of
that
body
yourself
or
you're
simply
not
in
the
right
place.
|
|
|
| I
was
then
struck
with
certain
questions
that
I
wished
that
I
could
ask
this
person.
I
prayed
for
wisdom
and
was
woken
up
out
of
bed
early
one
morning
with
the
following
10
questions
for
this
individual.
Rather
than
making
public
judgments
regarding
him,
I
went
direct
to
the
source
and
E-mailed
him
10
simple,
yet
tremendously
revealing
questions. |
|
| Although
it
reads
like
a
bed
time
story,
the
true
sequence
of
events
was
different.
First,
I
tried
for
7
(not
8
I
believe)
years
to
reason
with
Mark
Mohr.
My
essay
was
a
direct
result
of
his
unwillingness
to
communicate.
And
to
rectificate!
Then
when
I
published
my
essay
and
put
a
sample
Chapter
on
the
Lion
of
Zion
website,
it
was
deleted.
I
mailed
about
that
and
got
replies
by
Mark
Mohr
who,
after
a
few
exchanges
of
emails,
started
to
write
me
these
question.
I
initiated
the
contact,
not
him.
He
didn't
go
to
the
source,
the
source
was
already
trying
to
talk
to
him
as
he
was
doing
for
7
years
in
a
row.
So,
did
he
wish
he
could
ask
questions?
Not
quite.
He
knew
he
could.
He
was
just
asking
himself
which
questions
would
be
the
best.
|
|
|
| These
10
questions
helped
this
confusion
all
make
sense
to
me.
They
exposed
the
pivotal
point
of
division
between
this
individual
and
myself.
Regrettably
they
also
revealed
a
far
greater
gap
in
biblical
interpretation
than
I
had
ever
expected. |
|
| In
a
sample
chapter
for
the
follow-up
of
the
essay
which
is
already
pre-released
at
the
moment
of
this
writing,
I
already
report
on
this
particular
train
of
events
under
a
chapter
with
the
name
Operation
Interrogation
and
Eradication.
I'll
quote
from
it. |
|
|
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
|
|
| TEN
SIMPLE
QUESTIONS:
In
a
letter,
I
challenged
this
person
to
answer
10
simple
"Yes"
or
"No"
questions.
He
then
gave
me
permission
to
publish
his
response
to
these
questions.
But
before
he
answered
them,
he
wanted
to
clarify
his
response
with
the
following
statement:
|
|
|
|
| "I
believe
you
go
to
heaven
when
you
either
A.
Accept
Yesus
as
your
Lord
and
Saviour
OR
B.
If
you
are
not
against
Him.
Here
are
my
questions
and
his
answers:
|
|
| Mark
Mohr
never
explained
to
me
who
are
the
group
of
people
in
Matthew
25
called
the
Righteous
and
who
visited
Yesus
in
jail,
and
gave
Him
food.
They
had
obviously
not
accepted
Yesus
as
their
Lord
and
Saviour.
But
they
were
good
to
what
Yesus
calls
"the
Least
of
my
Brethren".
And
that's
why
Yesus
will
tell
them:
Enter,
for
ye
have
given
me
food
to
eat.
Go
ahead,
pick
up
your
Bible,
Matthew
25.
Yesus
is
the
Only
Way
to
JAH.
This
means,
that
YESUS
KRISTOS
holds
the
keys.
It
doesn't
mean,
that
when
someone
never
had
the
chance
to
get
to
know
the
Real
Yesus
(for
example
because
all
the
so-called
Christians
around
him
worship
the
babylonian
white
geezus)
that
this
one
will
"go
to
hell".
It
is
up
to
HIM
to
decide
who
goes
to
heaven
or
not.
Not
to
Mark
Mohr
or
me
or
whoever
else
but
YESUS
KRISTOS,
JAH!
And
it
is
up
to
us
to
share
our
faith
in
Yesus
Kristos
with
everyone
who
likes
so.
I
never
done
anything
else,
I
will
never
do
anything
else,
and
Mark
Mohr
knows
it.
But
still
he
chooses
to
portray
me
in
a
way
that
I
have
to
send
the
complete
interrogation
correspondence
to
certain
people
who
were
worried
by
his
abuse
of
my
answers.
But
he
does
so
to
his
own
guilt.
Talking
about
"accusing"...
Anyway,
here
are
the
questions
of
the
interrogation.
|
|
|
|
1.
Do
you
believe
that
a
Muslim
that
lives
his
whole
live
praying
to
Allah
and
keeping
his
Lord's
commands
yet
never
accepts
Jesus
as
his
Lord
and
Savior
will
go
to
heaven?
His
answer:
If
they
are
against
Jesus
they
will
go
to
hell.
If
this
person
is
not
against
Jesus,
they
will
go
to
heaven.
|
|
| "Come
on,
and
come
sit
on
Yesus
Throne.
And
then
I'll
tell
the
rest
of
the
people
that
you're
not
fit
to
sit
there" |
|
|
|
2.
Do
you
believe
that
a
Buddhist
who
lives
his
whole
life
meditating
and
fasting
and
keeping
the
teachings
of
Buddha,
yet
never
accepts
Jesus
as
his
Lord
and
Savior
will
go
to
heaven?
His
answer:
If
they
are
against
Jesus
they
will
go
to
hell.
If
this
person
is
not
against
Jesus,
they
will
go
to
heaven.
|
|
| "Come
on,
and
come
sit
on
Yesus
Throne.
And
then
I'll
tell
the
rest
of
the
people
that
you're
not
fit
to
sit
there" |
|
|
|
3.
Do
you
believe
that
a
Rasta
that
lives
his
whole
life
praying
to
Jesus
Christ
his
Lord
and
merely
views
Haile
Selassie
as
a
Christ-type,
(but
not
God)
will
go
to
heaven?
His
answer:
YES
|
|
| "Come
on,
and
come
sit
on
Yesus
Throne.
And
then
I'll
tell
the
rest
of
the
people
that
you're
not
fit
to
sit
there" |
|
|
|
4.
Do
you
believe
that
a
self
proclaimed
Rastafarian
that
was
raised
up
into
Rastafarian
by
his
parents
and
lives
his
whole
live
believing
that
Jesus
is
Lord
and
that
Haile
Selassie
IS
this
Jesus
Christ
(in
the
second
advent)
will
go
to
heaven?
His
answer:
YES
|
|
| "Come
on,
and
come
sit
on
Yesus
Throne.
And
then
I'll
tell
the
rest
of
the
people
that
you're
not
fit
to
sit
there" |
|
|
|
5.
Do
you
believe
that
a
self
proclaimed
Rastafarian
that
was
raised
up
into
Rastafari
by
his
parents
and
lives
his
whole
live
believing
that
Haile
Selassie
is
Almighty
God,
sitting
on
the
throne
(The
Trinity)
will
go
to
heaven?
His
answer:
If
they
are
against
Jesus
they
will
go
to
hell.
If
this
person
is
not
against
Jesus,
they
will
go
to
heaven.
|
|
| "Come
on,
and
come
sit
on
Yesus
Throne.
And
then
I'll
tell
the
rest
of
the
people
that
you're
not
fit
to
sit
there" |
|
|
|
6.
Is
it
true
you
have
said
that
there
is
a
difference
in
worshipping
the
wrong
God
and
worshipping
God
wrong.
His
answer:
YES
|
|
| Of
course.
Are
Jews
who
do
not
believe
that
the
Messiah
has
already
come
worshipping
the
wrong
God? |
|
|
|
7.
Would
you
say
that
someone
who
prays
to
Selassie
because
he
honestly
believes
that
he
is
Christ,
is
worshipping
the
right
God
in
a
wrong
way.
His
answer:
YES
|
|
| Of
course.
He
believes
Selassie
is
Kristos
(=is
the
Right
God)
doesn't
he.
He
doesn't
believe
Selassie
is
Satan
or
Baal. |
|
|
|
8.
Will
this
person
(as
mentioned
in
question
7)
go
to
heaven
if
they
remain
in
this
belief
until
they
die:
His
answer:
YES
|
|
| You
see,
this
is
the
crucial
question.
This
is
the
question
which
only
YESUS
can
answer.
And
that
is
why
He
is
the
only
Way.
And
that
is
why
He
will
judge.
And
that
is
why
I
said
YES.
How
would
I
know?
I
just
know
I
love
Yesus
Kristos
and
I
tell
everyone
I
know
that
I
love
Yesus
Kristos.
But
I
need
no
marketing
tools
and
long
lists
of
saved
souls
and
I
also
would
never
call
it
"fruits
of
my
effort"
when
maybe
people
get
to
know
Jah
Yahoshuah
ha
Mashiach
through
something
JAH
made
me
say.
|
|
|
|
9.
If
someone
is
not
going
to
heaven,
do
you
think
that
someone
should
evangelize
them
and
prayerfully
lead
them
to
repentance?
His
answer:
YES
|
|
| This
is
the
key
question
for
Mark
Mohr.
Oh,
how
much
had
he
hoped
that
I
would
give
him
a
big
fat
no
to
this
one...
But
because
I
say
YES,
I
am
an
enigma
for
him.
He
doesn't
feel
it,
he
doesn't
know
it.
I
see.
Do
you
see?
|
|
|
|
10.
Do
you
think
that
your
personal
smoking
of
marijuana
is
a
sin?
His
answer:
NO
|
|
| Of
course.
When
someone
would
smoke
herb
and
praise
Jah
and
not
have
a
problem
with
that,
would
he
consider
his
herbal
habit
a
sin? |
|
|
|
FOR
HIM
OR
AGAINST
HIM:
After
reading
his
surprising
answers,
I
had
to
respond
to
his
e-mail
with
another
question
for
clarification.
Are
you
saying
that
"If
they
are
against
Jesus
they
will
go
to
hell?
And
if
this
person
is
not
against
Jesus,
they
will
go
to
heaven?"
I
asked.
|
|
| It
might
have
surprised
him
that
I
didn't
fall
in
his
trick
questions.
Of
course,
an
enigma.
Even
the
ten
question
didn't
reveal
to
him
who
he
was
speaking
with.
But
hey,
he
should
have
asked
all
of
these
questions
to
YESUS
KRISTOS
and
not
to
me.
But
I
think
he
wouldn't
get
an
answer.
And
the
reason
for
that
is,
that
it
is
not
up
to
us
as
mere
humans
to
decide
over
such
issues.
|
|
|
| "I
think
the
above
is
a
correct
statement
in
all
cases."
He
said.
"Don't
forget
what
Yesus
says:
'Come
in
for
ye
have
treated
the
least
of
my
brethren
well,"
He
wrote. |
|
| I
was
referring
to
Matthew
25,
but
Mark
didn't
pay
any
attention
to
that. |
|
|
|
He
then
went
on
to
further
clarify:
"When
Jesus
told
me
that
the
time
had
come
for
me
to
grow
my
dreadlocks
(around
1986),
I
asked
Him
how
I
should
look
at
things
and
He
pointed
me
to
this
scripture,
I
looked
it
up
and
it
said
'who
is
not
against
Me
is
before
Me.'
I
know
the
opposite
is
also
there
but
the
one
here
is
not
often
mentioned.
Jesus
told
me
to
look
the
scripture
up
and
that
was
it.
I
believe
Jesus
told
me
to
always
have
that
scripture
in
mind
when
"dealing"
with
any
people,
whether
they
profess
to
be
Christian
Rastafarian
or
both
or
none."
|
|
| You
know,
some
people
really
no
like
Yesus.
They
hate
him.
They
don't
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
them.
JAH
told
me
to
leave
these
people
alone.
But
He
also
showed
through
this
scripture,
that
there
are
many
people
who
are
not
against
Him.
But
they
might
not
know
Him.
Or
maybe
they
do.
JAH
knows,
I
don't.
Mohr
speaks
about
"spreading
the
Gospel"
and
he
also
speaks
about
"witnessing".
One
of
my
songs
is
called
Eye
Witness.
|
|
|
| He
then
stated
that
the
key
verses
that
he
inspired
his
(virtually
all-inclusive)
doctrine
were
Mark
9:38-40
and
Luke
9:49-50.
These
are
passages
that
I
feel
this
individual
has
taken
way
out
of
context: |
|
| Here
he
starts
to
incorporate
manipulation.
First
he
puts
me
on
the
Throne
of
Judgment.
Bringing
groups
(not
individuals)
to
me
and
forces
me
to
speak
judgment
on
them.
But
when
I
try
to
hint
to
him,
how
he
puts
himself
on
JAH
Throne
of
judgment
all
the
time
by
judging
people
who
only
know
a
white
Geezus
and
therefore
look
to
Selassie
I.
And
while
he
may
think
that
he
"brings
the
gospel"
to
"Selassie
Worshippers"
and
JAH
in
His
Grace
might
touch
the
hearts
of
a
view
wannabee
Rastas
during
a
Christafari
concert,
in
reality
something
more
tragical
is
happening.
His
methods
come
from
Sanctuary.
In
this
article
again
you
can
see
that
he
uses
dreadlocks,
red
gold
black
and
green,
as
well
as
Reggae
Music
and
the
Ethiopian
Image
of
the
Lion
of
JUDAH
as
an
outward
tool.
He
doesn't
respect
the
true
meaning
of
these
symbols,
even
though
none
of
them
are
"unbiblical"
in
their
original
meaning.
But
still
he
must
change
them
to
fit
his
ways.
Because
he
refuses
to
be
a
Rasta
even
though
he
has
to
admit
that
the
reason
for
that
is
not
that
you
can
not
be
a
Christian
and
a
Rasta.
It
goes
further.
I
quoted
the
review
in
which
Mark
Mohr
abuses
one
of
the
artists
he
is
selling
on
his
shop
to
present
him
as
a
"true
Christian
roots
artist",
as
opposed
to
the
"ever
enigmatic"
Messian
Dread
and
Yabby
You.
So
even
being
a
Yesus
Dread
is
something
which
is
not
in
his
way
of
thinking.
Again:
Who
Feels
It,
Knows
It.
Who
Does
NOT
Feel
It,
Does
NOT
Know
it.
And
Mark
Mohr
really
doesn't
know
it.
He
even
calls
it
deception
and
enigmatic,
even
though
he
admits
it's
Godly
origin.
In
interviews,
he
even
says
how
he
hated
Reggae
at
first
but
started
to
like
it
because
it
justified
his
use
of
marijuana.
|
| It
was
a
root
of
another
kind
that
first
attracted
Mohr
to
reggae.
"From
a
musical
perspective,
I
hated
reggae
at
first,"
he
admits.
"What
really
drew
me
to
it
was
that
it
justified
using
marijuana.
But,
as
I
listened
more,
I
started
to
like
it." |
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| I
have
researched
Christafari
for
years.
I
heard
the
many
stories.
I
read
the
biographies
and
reports.
The
picture
that
Mark
Mohr
paints
for
the
Christian
Press
speaks
volumes.
He
was
born
and
raised
in
an
evangelical
family
in
a
protected
environment.
At
a
certain
moment
his
brother
(who
was
an
initiate
in
a
fraternity
and
currently
a
fund
raiser
for
missionaries)
has
"taken
his
little
brother
into
sin".
Mark
got
into
trouble
many
times
and
was
involved
in
violence
and
hard
drugs
but
also
went
to
Christian
camps.
At
many
of
these
camps
he
"gave
his
life
to
Christ",
but
then
one
time
was
the
last
one.
A
few
days
later,
Christafari
was
born
and
Mark
Mohr
went
to
Biola
University,
where
he
wrote
his
book
about
Rastafari
which
got
him
into
trouble
with
Buju
Banton.
At
Biola,
they
teach
discipline
in
a
way
that
reflects
the
"tour
morals"
quoted
in
my
essay.
It
is
evidently
that
Mark
Mohr's
mind-set
is
significantly
formed
at
that
place.
Take
a
look
at
the
following,
and
tell
me
if
this
is
not
mental
slavery.
|
|
Biola
students
have
chosen,
freely
and
willingly,
to
abide
by
the
following
standards.
We
regard
any
violation
of
these
standards
to
be
a
breach
of
integrity,
since
each
member
has
voluntarily
chosen
to
associate
with
the
Biola
community
and
to
accept,
uphold,
and
live
by
the
following
standards.
|
|
LINK
TO
THE
PAGE
|
| Kind
of
sick
in
my
eyes.
"Be
Perfect,
Or
Be
Viewed
As
Deceiver".
Wheel!!!!!!!
"Be
Perfect,
Or
Be
Viewed
As
Deceiver".
In
anyway,
this
is
the
school
where
Mark
Mohr
wrote
his
book(s)
on
Rastafari.
It
was
during
a
"project
on
cults".
He
did
not
finish
his
education
at
Biola
University
and
became
involved
in
the
Sanctuary
movement.
Bob
Beeman
ordained
him
as
a
Pastor
in
that
community.
Until
this
day,
Christafari
is
deeply
connected
with
the
evangelical
world.
With
the
Babylonian
and
with
the
true
Christian
elements
in
them.
They
perform
at
TBN
(Terrible
Babylon
Nonsense)
which
is
a
known
Televangelist
TV
Station
with
the
same
ease
as
they
perform
in
a
church
where
people
are
genuine.
So
that
is
their
culture,
and
they're
into
every
element
of
it.
The
Evangelicals
consider
themselves
to
be
the
best
communicators
of
the
Gospel.
Mark
Mohr
reflect
this
mind
set
in
this
"Response"
when
he
describes
his
Evangelical
Identity.
I'll
quote
it
here.
"I
am
an
evangelical
Christian.
I
know
some
people
that
have
gone
to
a
Christian
church
their
whole
life
and
never
heard
the
gospel--what
a
shame.
That
would
never
happen
in
my
home
church."
Now
when
I
started
to
think
about
the
many
clashes
between
Christafari
and
Rastafarians
back
in
1997,
I
came
to
realize
how
ignorance
concerning
the
movement
of
Rastafari
in
it's
complete
richness
and
context
was
the
main
cause.
The
fact
that
he
calls
Christian
Rastafarians
"Deceivers"
and
Yesus
Dreads
"Enigmatic"
confirms
this.
The
fact
that
he
is
surprised
that
there's
a
growing
group
of
Rastafarians,
spearheaded
by
the
leader
of
the
biggest
Rastafarian
organization
in
the
world,
who
don't
believe
Selassie
to
be
JAH,
is
another
confirmation.
This
is
not
about
spreading
the
gospel.
the
gospel
is
being
spread,
but
not
in
a
way
that
Mark
Mohr
notices
it.
It
is
beyond
his
mind-set.
I
try
to
hint
to
him,
many
times.
When
I
try
to
tell
him,
that
there
are
Christian
Rastafarians,
I
mean
with
that
that
there
is
a
group
of
Rastas
who
he
doesn't
have
to
"evangelize".
I
don't
do
that
to
make
any
division,
but
I
am
trying
to
tell
Mark
Mohr
that
he
treats
Rastafarians
as
Satanists.
And
because
I
have
to
step
into
his
mind
set
to
tell
him
this,
I
try
to
point
out
to
him
that
there
is
a
group
within
Rasta
who
he
can
not
treat
as
a
Satanist
so
easily.
I
hoped,
that
this
would
make
him
realize
that
he
was
treating
Rastas
like
Satanists.
And
I
had
hoped
that
he
would
realize
how
his
facade
of
using
Rasta
as
marketing
was
unnecessary.
I
had
hoped
he
would
see
Babylon
around
him
and
be
a
Yesus
Dread,
chanting
down
babylon.
Not
playing
the
Reggae
Man
for
the
Television
Preachers
at
TBN
and
the
Pat
Boone
Show.
He
didn't
feel
the
hint.
Instead
he
constantly
refers
to
my
"marijuana
use".
Mark
Mohr's
response
is
a
typical
evangelical
response
to
Rasta
Culture.
And
the
fact
that
Yesus
Dreads
are
enigmatic
to
him
makes
this
even
stronger.
So
Mark
Mohr,
with
many
evangelical
brothers
and
sisters,
is
like
the
Disciples
of
Christ.
Totally
unaware
that
outside
of
their
world,
in
different
cultures,
the
gospel
is
also
being
preached.
And
that
is
what
I
tried
to
hint
at
when
I
told
him
my
personal
story.
The
story
of
which
I
believe
JAH
told
me
who
I
was.
A
YESUS
DREAD
who
is
to
Chant
Down
Babylon.
|
|
|
| Mark
9:38-40
"Teacher,"
said
John,
"we
saw
a
man
driving
out
demons
in
your
name
and
we
told
him
to
stop,
because
he
was
not
one
of
us."
"Do
not
stop
him,"
Jesus
said.
"No
one
who
does
a
miracle
in
my
name
can
in
the
next
moment
say
anything
bad
about
me,
for
whoever
is
not
against
us
is
for
us. |
|
| This
is
the
message
of
Yesus
Kristos
to
all
of
his
followers
who
think
that
they
are
the
only
group
that
does
Yesus
Works.
Yesus
tells
Mark
Mohr,
there
are
certain
people
who
are
not
against
Him.
|
|
|
| The
above
text
and
the
verse
from
Luke
are
parallel
passages
in
the
synoptic
gospels.
Jesus
is
being
asked
by
his
disciple
John
about
someone
that
is
"Not
one
of
us".
According
to
the
context,
this
man
was
apparently
a
believer,
but
he
was
not
one
of
the
exclusive
company
of
the
twelve
disciples.
Nevertheless,
he
acted
in
Jesus'
name
and
had
done
miracles
that
the
disciples,
on
at
least
one
occasion,
had
not
been
able
to
do
(See
Mark
9:14-18,
2. |
|
| Now
read
Mohr's
paragraph
and
change
the
words
"twelve
disciples
for
"evangelical
world".
And
change
the
words
"this
man"
for
"Rasta".
|
|
|
| When
Jesus
said
"Do
not
stop
him,"
it
is
clear
that
Jesus'
view
of
discipleship
was
far
more
inclusive
than
the
narrow
view
held
by
the
twelve.
Jesus
wasn't
saying
that
"if
you're
a
good
Buddhist,
you
will
go
to
heaven,"
the
individual
in
reference
was
obviously
doing
his
miracles
in
the
name
of
Jesus
and
with
the
work
of
the
Holy
Spirit. |
|
| Do
you
see
how
he
doesn't
see
my
hint,
but
instead
starts
to
"correct
me"
by
hinting
to
the
reader
that
I
had
said
a
Buddhist
goes
to
heaven?
I
wasn't
speaking
about
"going
to
heaven"
anymore.
I
wasn't
following
his
interrogation.
I
was
simply
trying
to
hint
to
him
that
this
had
nothing
to
do
with
that.
That
it
had
to
do
with
being
a
Yesus
Dread.
|
|
|
| Luke
9:49-50:
"Master,"
said
John,
"we
saw
a
man
driving
out
demons
in
your
name
and
we
tried
to
stop
him,
because
he
is
not
one
of
us."
In
this
verse
John
says
"us,"
but
Jesus
shifts
the
pronoun
to
"You"
in
the
next
verse
(50).
This
may
mean
that
the
man
had
a
relationship
to
Jesus
of
which
the
disciples
where
unaware.
"Do
not
stop
him,"
Jesus
said,
"for
whoever
is
not
against
you
is
for
you." |
|
| For
Yesus
it
doesn't
matter.
If
you
treat
a
disciple
of
Kristos
like
dung,
He
will
see
it
as
being
addressed
to
Him.
If
you
treat
a
disciple
of
Kristos
good,
like
you
visit
him
in
jail,
He
will
also
see
it
as
addressed
to
Him.
This
is
about
two
disciples
of
Kristos,
who
indeed
may
both
know
the
Saviour
personally
but
can
not
really
overstand
each
other.
I
think
this
is
the
situation
Mark
Mohr
has
with
a
lot
of
Rasta
and
Yesus
Dread.
But
unfortunately
he
thinks
I'm
a
New
Ager
or
at
least
presents
me
as
such
to
his
readers.
His
poor
readers,
who
are
being
deprived
from
any
reference
material
as
far
as
Mark
Mohr
is
concerned.
|
|
|
| My
accuser
said
that
only
"If
they
are
against
Jesus
they
will
go
to
hell,"
and
used
this
verse
as
an
attempt
to
prove
his
point.
Yet
this
verse
is
not
about
someone
that
is
against
Jesus.
It
is
clearly
about
someone
that
is
against
his
disciples.
"Whoever
is
not
against
you
is
for
you,"
The
Greek
is
clear
that
this
was
spoken
in
the
context
of
opposition
to
the
disciples'
work,
NOT
Jesus'. |
|
| I
think
Mark
made
the
Freudian
Slip
because
there
wasn't
any
verse
about
no
hell
in
the
parts
he
quoted.
And
the
verse
wasn't
about
someone
who
is
against
Yesus.
Or
against
the
disciples.
Just
different.
Besides,
here
we
also
have
an
indication
again,
"the
fruits
of
my
efforts"
remember?
There's
a
different
in
the
works
of
the
disciples
and
the
works
of
Yesus
in
the
mind
set
of
Mark
Mohr.
Who
taught
to
do
Mohr
Work?
I
rather
do
JAH
Work.
|
|
|
|
Mark
Mohr's
Response The
The
Essay
With
Footnotes
5
|
| Mark
Mohr's
Response
to
"The
Essay" |
|
| Messian
Dread's
footnotes
to
"Mark
Mohr's
Response" |
|
|
| To
get
such
a
revelation
from
this
verse
is
to
proof
text
and
build
upon
the
wrong
foundation.
Beyond
this,
any
such
revelation
or
calling
must
also
be
taken
in
light
of
the
specific
context
of
the
passage
(as
stated
above)
and
the
general
context
of
the
Bible. |
|
| It's
real
sad
to
see
how
the
teacher
Mark
Mohr
can
not
see
a
teaching
when
it
is
presented
to
him
at
a
level
which
should
be
overstandable
for
a
spiritual
preacherman
who
God
chose
to
plug
the
gap
in
the
Industry
and
Lead
the
Christian
Reggae
Movement
and
Tell
the
Christian
media
About
Rastafari
and
more
and
more
and
more
and...
mohr? |
|
|
| When
speaking
about
himself
(and
not
His
disciples),
Jesus
specified
in
Luke
11:23
"He
who
is
not
with
me
is
against
me,
and
he
who
does
not
gather
with
me,
scatters.
We
must
be
"with
Him." |
|
| Yes,
Mark
Mohr.
We
must
be
"with
Him".
And
it
can
be,
that
there
are
people
"with
Him"
that
do
things
which
you
may
not
immediately
recognize
because
it
is
not
a
thing
you
have
been
introduced
to.
But
sadly
you
present
yourself
as
an
expert
on
those
people
and
you
don't
even
recognize
your
own
situation
in
the
bible
verse
I
gave
you.
Not
to
go
into
a
discussion
about
who
is
going
to
hell.
I
don't
know,
you
don't
know.
JAH
knows.
I
presented
this
bible
verse
to
you
to
tell
you
something
as
a
Yesus
Dread
to
an
Evangelical
Christian
who
thinks
he
must
treat
Rastas
like
Satanists.
But
again:
Mark
Mohr
is
the
Band
Leader,
The
President
of
Lion
Of
Zion,
The
Pastor,
The
Teacher.
But
not
a
Yesus
Dread.
And
not
a
"Christian
Rastafarian"
or
Christafarian.
He
says
so
himself
and
stresses
it
to
a
point
in
which
he
starts
to
teach
idiocy
such
as
that
Jah
creates
deceivers.
Man
oh
man,
what
a
situation.
|
|
|
|
WORSHIPPING
THE
RIGHT
GOD
IN
THE
WRONG
WAY?
How
can
this
individual
say
that
if
someone
is
praying
to
Jesus,
but
believes
that
Haile
Selassie
IS
this
Jesus
then
it
is
okay?
He
also
stated
that
this
person
is
merely
worshipping
the
right
god
in
the
wrong
way--a
minor
infraction
in
his
mind--an
abomination
in
the
eyes
of
God.
|
|
| Have
I
said,
that
it
was
"okay"
to
pray
to
Selassie
thinking
he
is
Kristos?
If
I
had
thought
so,
I
would
have
done
so
myself.
Kind
of
natural...
But
remember,
he
bases
this
allegation
on
his
absurd
interrogation
of
ten
questions.
In
his
idea,
everything
is
"okay"
as
long
as
you're
not
going
to
hell.
And
here
he
also
brings
a
more
interesting
part
into
the
article.
It
is
at
this
place,
that
he's
going
to
teach
something
which
has
as
consequence,
that
Jews
are
praying
to
Satan.
Just
watch
it.
|
|
|
| The
way
my
Bible
reads
is
as
follows:
If
I
pray
to
Jesus,
ask
him
to
forgive
me
of
my
sins
and
make
him
Lord
of
my
life--that
is
salvation.
But
the
second
that
I
think
that
this
same
Jesus
IS
Jim
Jones,
David
Koresh,
Prince
Immanuel
or
even
Haile
Selassie
himself,
I
am
being
deceived
by
the
prince
of
darkness.
For
on
the
day
of
Judgment
many
will
say
"Lord,
Lord,"
but
he
will
say
depart
from
me,
for
I
never
knew
you
(Mat
7:23). |
|
| The
bible
verse
he
quotes
was
about
people
who
said
that
they
worshipped
Yesus
but
never
did.
He
uses
it,
to
expose
that
his
preference
for
the
word
"god"
over
the
Name
JAH
is
completely
in-line
with
the
meanings
of
"god"
and
JAH.
Because
he
thinks,
that
when
people
say
they
worship
Yesus
and
do
it
not,
this
is
the
same
as
people
who
think
they
worship
Yesus
when
they
pray
to
Selassie.
People
who
say
they
worship
Yesus
and
do
it
not,
are
what
the
Rastas
call
the
Xians,
the
followers
of
the
White
Geezus.
These
people
know
the
Name
of
Yesus
very
well.
they
use
it
to
make
money.
To
gain
popularity.
Even
to
drive
out
demons
and
"save
souls".
But
by
doing
these
thing
in
Yesus
Name
without
committing
JAH
Work,
they
paint
the
white
geezus
in
front
of
many
people.
And
some
people
look
to
Selassie
because
they
only
see
a
white
geezus
when
they
look
to
Christianity.
I
would
blame
Christianity
more
then
any
Rasta
for
this.
|
|
|
| In
Matthew
24,
our
Lord
said
to
His
disciples:
"Watch
out
that
no
one
deceives
you.
For
many
will
come
in
my
name,
claiming,
'I
am
the
Christ,'
and
will
deceive
many."
(Matthew
24:4-5)
And
later
in
verse
24
Jesus
states
"For
false
Christs
and
false
prophets
will
appear
and
perform
great
signs
and
miracles
to
deceive
even
the
elect--if
that
were
possible." |
|
| Here
is
more
misuse
of
scripture.
The
only
people
who
claim
that
Haile
Selassie
said
that
he
is
God
are
the
ones
who
believe
he
is.
But
according
to
Mark
Mohr,
Selassie
never
said
he
was
JAH.
So
why
does
Mark
Mohr
use
this
scripture?
|
|
|
| Whether
this
person
is
self
proclaimed
or
not,
someone
that
is
worshipped
as
Christ
but
is
not
the
Messiah
is
called
a
"False
Christ."
I
don't
care
if
this
person
is
as
godly
as
Billy
Graham.
If
you
pray
to
Billy
Graham
and
believe
that
he
is
the
Lord
Jesus
Christ,
you
will
be
very
surprised
when
you
reach
your
final
destination
after
judgment.
Hell
is
not
the
location
of
choice
among
the
wise.
Yet
as
they
say,
"the
road
to
hell
is
paved
with
good
intentions." |
|
| Unbelievable.
So
when
I
find
one
or
two
people
that
worship
Mark
Mohr
as
Christ,
this
would
actually
make
him
a
false
Christ?
He's
got
to
watch
it
then,
with
all
his
"fans".
For
fans
have
"idols",
which
means
just
that:
idols.
A
false
Christ
is
someone
who
says
he
is
Christ
but
is
it
not.
The
Bible
verse
he
quotes
says
that
many
will
come
and
say
I
am
Christ
and
that
there
will
be
many
false
Christs.
In
the
Bible,
Paulus
was
one
time
worshipped
as
a
god
because
of
the
many
gifts
he
had.
did
that
make
him
a
false
Christ?
Is
Paul
a
false
Christ?
No.
Mark
Mohr
didn't
get
my
hint.
And
he
thought
I
was
proving
to
him
why
this
group
was
going
to
heaven
and
that
group
not.
Oh
man.
What
a
drama.
|
|
|
|
CHRISTIAN-ISH
UNIVERSALISM:
Needless
to
say,
the
answers
to
the
above
ten
questions
ooze
of
universalism,
a
teaching
adhered
to
by
many
in
the
reggae
community
from
Big
Mountain
to
Luciano.
Yet
Christianity
and
universalism
are
diametrically
opposed
at
the
most
crucial
point.
|
|
| He's
even
going
further
and
tries
to
proof
now
that
I
am
a
New
Ager.
I
have
written
about
New
Age
and
the
false
Christ
it
presents.
I
have
exposed
"universalism"
years
before
Mark
Mohr
realized
it
was
even
there.
But
that
doesn't
bother
the
quote
less
responder....
|
|
|
| Some
people
claim
that
one
may
be
able
to
follow
the
teachings
of
Buddha,
Krishna,
Joseph
Smith,
Vishnu,
or
even
Mohammed,
and
go
to
heaven
without
accepting
Christ
as
Lord
and
Savior,
but
do
not
let
anyone
"deceive
you
by
fine-sounding
arguments"
(Col
2:4).
"Man
is
destined
to
die
once,
and
after
that
to
face
judgment"
(Heb
9:27).
We
are
all
born
into
sin. |
|
| Did
you
also
notice
how
he
didn't
mention
Haile
Selassie
one
time
here?
Because
if
you
follow
the
teachings
of
Selassie
you
will
accept
Christ
as
you
Lord
and
Saviour
as
Mark
Mohr
always
uses
this
evangelical
term.
So
I'll
leave
his
quote
of
the
Colossians
right
there
for
him
to
meditate
on,
and
establish
that
he
is
now
going
into
a
rant
concerning
heaven
and
hell,
a
subject
he
raised
in
his
interrogation
and
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
subject
of
my
essay
or
my
correspondence
with
him.
It
only
took
place
in
his
mind.
Or
should
I
say,
mind
set?
|
|
|
| Without
making
Christ
Lord
of
our
lives
and
having
Him
save
us
and
forgive
us
of
our
sins,
we
cannot
enter
into
heaven,
because
it
is
a
pure
and
holy
place
and
God
is
a
Righteous
God.
The
Bible
says
that
Jesus
is
Lord
and
there
is
"no
other
name
under
heaven
given
to
men
by
which
we
must
be
saved"
(Acts
4:12). |
|
| When
the
Bible
says
that
there
is
no
other
Name
under
which
we
can
be
saved,
the
message
is
that
Yesus
Kristos
holds
the
Keys.
That
HE
decides.
Not
WE.
It
is
up
to
us,
to
show
Yesus
Kristos
and
His
Message
to
people
around
us.
It
is
up
to
those
people
what
they
do
with
it.
It
is
up
to
JAH
to
say
who
will
go
to
hell.
And
Mark
Mohr
forced
me
to
go
and
sit
on
that
throne
and
now
he
uses
it
to
say
I
should
not
be
on
that
throne.
|
|
|
| At
this
Name,
every
knee
shall
bow
and
every
tongue
shall
tell
that
Christ
is
King
of
all
Kings
and
Lord
of
all
Lords
(Phil
2:10
&
1Tim
6:14-15).
Christ
is
"far
above
all
rule
and
authority,
power
and
dominion,
and
every
title
that
can
be
given,
not
only
in
the
present
age
but
also
in
the
one
to
come.
And
God
placed
all
things
under
his
feet
and
appointed
him
to
be
head
over
everything…"
(Eph
1:21-22).
Until
man
acknowledges
all
of
the
above
and
places
his
life
at
Christ's
feet,
they
will
not
see
eternal
life
with
Christ. |
|
| And
Bible
verse
after
Bible
verse
drives
the
reader
further
away
from
the
original
scriptures
which
were
used
in
the
interrogation... |
|
|
| Every
aspect
of
Jesus'
life
drew
a
figurative
line
in
the
sand,
stating
that
if
you're
not
for
Him,
you
are
against
Him.
Never
was
it
"If
you're
not
against
Him
you
are
for
Him." |
|
|
|
|
WHY
EVANGELIZE?:
If
all
peoples
of
all
faiths
are
going
to
heaven
UNLESS
they
are
AGAINST
Jesus,
then
that
gives
us
little
need
to
evangelize.
We
might
as
well
believe
what
we
want.
But
whatever
you
do,
just
don't
curse
Christ.
With
this
worldview,
every
day
is
"choose
your
own
religion
day",
with
no
ramifications
for
one's
sinful
actions.
|
|
| When
you
were
thinking
I
was
going
too
far
when
I
said
that
for
Mark
Mohr
"everything
is
okay
as
long
as
you're
not
going
to
hell",
think
again.
He
claims
that
I
teach
that
you
can
pick
any
religion
you
want
as
long
as
you're
not
against
Yesus
and
he
totally
forgets
how
all
these
religions
are
against
Yesus...
Maybe
it's
not
possible
to
be
a
Muslim
and
not
against
Yesus?
But
I
prefer
not
to
see
people
as
Muslims,
Buddhists
and
all
that.
Religions
come
from
Babylon.
They
bring
mental
slavery.
I
prefer
to
see
people
as
people.
And
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
my
salvation
comes
from
Yesus
Kristos.
I
am
not
ashamed
for
it,
my
page
on
Redemption
is
very
clear.
But
since
Mark
Mohr
doesn't
want
to
bother
his
readers
with
the
truth,
he
hopes
nobody
will
read
it.
|
|
|
| This
exposes
why
someone
would
slander
the
evangelicals.
After
all,
in
this
universalistic
worldview,
evangelicals
are
no
longer
necessary.
In
fact
they
will
just
offend
someone's
culture.
They
are
a
part
of
"Babylon
X-ianity,"
a
phrase
that
my
accuser
cleverly
penned
to
define
those
that
do
not
see
things
through
his
broad
spectacles. |
|
| You
see
how
here
he
clearly
identifies
himself
with
the
evangelicals?
In
the
first
part
of
the
article
he
more
or
less
tries
to
deny
it
and
give
the
word
"evangelical"
a
more
universalistic
meaning
in
the
Kingdom
of
Yesus.
But
here
it
becomes
really
clear.
But
not
a
single
time
does
he
use
the
word
"Christian"
here.
|
|
|
| If
he
won't
take
my
word
(or
that
of
the
Bible)
on
our
need
to
evangelize
all
unbelievers
(including
Rastas),
perhaps
he
will
respect
the
doctrine
of
the
Ethiopian
Orthodox
faith.
They
state
on
one
of
their
official
sites;
"The
Ethiopian
Church
remains
involved
in
missionary
efforts
amongst
the
Rastafarians
of
the
Caribbean
and
has
brought
many
of
them
to
convert,
and
to
belief
in
the
Ethiopian
Orthodox
Faith." |
|
| He
even
draws
the
Ethiopian
Orthodox
Church
in
now.
The
Ethiopian
Church
teaches
Rastas
that
Selassie
is
not
JAH
and
as
a
result
there
are
many
Rastas
who
do
not
believe
Selassie
to
be
Jah
as
a
result.
Because
the
Ethiopian
Church
doesn't
say
to
the
Rastas
to
stop
being
a
Rasta
and
become
like
a
Rasta.
But
that
doesn't
matter
to
Mark
Mohr
who
tries
to
proof
to
his
readers
that
I
am
unaware
of
this
all
where
an
article
about
it
has
been
on
the
Dubroom
website
since
about
1998.
|
|
|
| So
Christafari
is
not
alone
in
our
missionary
efforts
amongst
the
"Rastafarians,"
and
our
desire
to
see
them
convert
to
Christianity
as
Bob
Marley
did
via
the
Orthodoxy. |
|
| It
is
absurd
to
see
how
Mark
Mohr
denies
his
readers
access
to
the
material
he
claims
to
"respond"
to,
for
they
would
see
immediately
how
the
Ethiopian
Orthodox
Church
is
well
covered
in
the
Dubroom
and
the
difference
between
the
EOC
and
Christafari
is
that
Christafari
teaches
Rastas
to
stop
being
a
Rasta
or
be
called
a
deceiver
and
the
EOC
doesn't
deal
with
such
crap.
But
how
would
the
reader
know
if
they
only
have
to
take
Mark
Mohr's
words
for
it?
This
is
exactly
one
of
the
things
I
have
addressed
in
my
essay.
That
within
the
evangelical
world
Mark
Mohr
presents
himself
as
the
authority
on
"reaching
Rastas"
and
all
that.
|
|
|
| Or
perhaps
this
individual
will
accept
the
doctrinal
statement
of
the
Twelve
Tribes
of
Israel
since
he
is
such
a
great
respecter
of
the
Prophet
Gad.
The
TTOI
denies
the
divinity
of
Selassie,
yet
states
"His
Imperial
Majesty
Emperor
Haile
Selassie
1,
Himself
a
follower
of
Jesus,
and
holding
the
title
of
Defender
of
the
Faith
and
leader
of
the
most
ancient
Christian
Nation
on
earth,
Ethiopia,
has
commanded
us
to:
'…arise
with
the
spiritual
zeal
and
earnestness
which
characterized
the
Apostles
and
early
Christians
and
let
us
lead
our
brothers
and
sisters
to
Our
Saviour
Jesus,
Who
only
gives
life
in
its
fullest
sense'." |
|
| I
was
aware
of
the
doctrine
of
the
Twelve
Tribes
Of
Israel
when
Mark
Mohr
wasn't
even
aware
that
there
were
different
houses
of
Rastafari,
let
alone
what
he
now
claims
to
have
to
teach
me.
I
was
blessed
to
transcribe
an
interview
with
the
Prophet
Gad.
In
it,
he
says
Selassie
is
not
God.
This
transcription
is
authorized
by
Gad
and
has
gone
from
pole
to
pole.
it
is
quoted
in
books
with
my
name
as
transcriber.
For
example
in
the
book
Dread
Jesus.
I
have
also
sent
Mark
Mohr
the
interview.
He
was
very
surprised.
And
now
he
says
to
his
readers
that
I
am
so
stupid
that
I
don't
even
know
that
the
12
tribes
say.
I
know
that
they
say.
I
told
Mark
Mohr
what
they
say.
But
as
far
as
Mark
Mohr
is
concerned
everybody
must
think
that
he
is
the
authority.
And
usually
I
don't
deal
with
these
kind
of
things.
But
now
I
just
point
out
to
it,
because
it
simply
confirms
that
Mark
Mohr
claims
God
chose
him
to
plug
the
gap
and
only
through
his
and
his
efforts
shall
Christian
get
reggae.
Otherwise
they
will
be
labeled
as
deceivers
or
enigmatic
and
the
artists
he
sells
are
the
"true
Christian
roots
artists".
|
|
|
| Though
I
am
not
a
member
of
the
TTOI,
the
above
quote
best
explains
my
harshly
judged
intentions.
In
great
"spiritual
zeal
and
earnestness"
I
have
done
all
things
necessary
to
lead
others
to
"our
Savior
Jesus." |
|
| No,
Mark
Mohr
is
definitely
not
a
member
of
the
12
Tribes
of
Israel.
He's
not
a
Rasta,
remember?
He
puts
every
effort
in
making
this
oh
so
clear.
But
when
it
comes
to
proving
how
I
am
a
new
ager,
the
Rastas
in
the
Twelve
Tribes
are
suddenly
good
enough.
Well,
anyway,
it's
good
to
see
Mark
Mohr
knows
at
least
that
there
ARE
Rastafarians
who
know
Jesus
and
make
no
secret
about
it.
Because
with
that,
he
reveals
he's
not
that
ignorant.
And
his
motives
for
not
wanting
to
associate
himself
with
the
Rastas
he
now
so
boldly
quotes
are
deeper
then
many
think.
|
|
|
| Imagine
if
someone
said,
10
years
ago,
"we
have
found
the
cure
to
aids,
a
disease
that
has
recently
ravaged
the
homosexual
community."
Give
my
accuser's
approach,
he
would
probably
rather
debate
the
validity
of
the
general
statement
"Homosexual
disease"
and
grossly
ignore
the
word
"cure".
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
this;
Christians
are
given
a
cure--a
cure
for
sin
and
eternal
separation
from
God. |
|
| It's
becoming
a
little
bit
boring
to
read
how
he
constantly
calls
me
Satan
throughout
the
article
he
wrote,
and
now
that
he's
comparing
the
Rastafarian
community
with
the
homosexual
community
to
proof
that
I
am
a
new
Ager
it
gets
to
a
point
of
total
absurdity.
While
his
readers
are
still
thinking
that
he
is
factually
defending
spreading
the
Gospel
of
Yesus,
he
is
going
on
a
total
rant
based
on
ten
trick
questions.
He's
approaching
the
point
in
which
he
is
exposing
himself
to
such
an
extend
that
I
doubt
that
when
people
would
really
research
the
Dubroom
they
would
still
consider
Mark
Mohr's
response
valid.
I
think
the
fact
that
he
calls
me
Satan
and
claims
that
quoting
me
or
pointing
out
to
"my"
site
is
absolutely
unnecessary
takes
him
into
a
spiritually
very
dangerous
situation.
|
|
|
| Perhaps
my
accuser
has
a
serious
problem
with
evangelicals
and
pastors
as
a
whole
because
of
some
bad
past
experiences
he
has
had,
after
all,
it
is
not
easy
being
a
pastor's
kid.
If
this
is
the
case,
I
am
sorry.
But
I
refuse
to
be
ashamed
of
(or
water
down)
the
gospel
of
Jesus
Christ. |
|
| In
the
2-hours
of
phone
contact
Mark
Mohr
forced
me
in,
he
said:
"I
believe
you
are
seriously
hurt
by
the
church".
He
thought
that
that
was
the
reason
why
I
wrote
my
essay.
I
told
him
I
knew
that
even
if
I
have
pain
through
a
church
whatever,
I
know
that
he
didn't
do
it.
|
|
|
| Some
may
get
offended.
But
the
Gospel
is
called
an
offense,
a
stumbling
block
and
foolishness
by
those
who
are
perishing. |
|
| But
his
ten
trick
questions
is
all
he
has,
and
therefore
he
has
to
portray
me
as
some
anti-Christ
who
is
against
spreading
the
Gospel.
The
True
Gospel. |
|
|
| In
a
recent
e-mail
to
one
of
our
moderators
my
accuser
wrote:
"I
will
also
no
longer
post
on
the
Christafari
Message
Boards."
This
is
a
wise
decision
that
I
support.
I
challenge
you
to
hold
to
this
word
and
continue
your
works
on
your
own
message
board.
Anyone
that
will
miss
his
words
is
welcome
to
join
him
on
his
own
message
board
on
his
own
site. |
|
| I'm
happy
he
sees
I'm
not
totally
unwise
:) |
|
|
|
One
forum
moderator
summed
it
up
best
by
stating
the
following:
"I
see
you
doing
your
best
to
destroy
any
chances
of
spreading
the
Gospel
of
Christ
to
any
who
need
Him.
I
see
you
not
as
some
one
that
is
concerned
for
the
souls
of
the
lost.
I
see
that
you
want
to
discredit
without
trying
to
build
up.
You
have
lowered
yourself
to
a
mere
accuser
of
the
Brethren.
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Mohr
confirms
the
final
rebuke
in
which
I
am
given
to
Satan,
and
people
are
told
I
should
be
treated
as
a
publican
and
a
heathen
man.
They
only
make
Yesus
and
Paulus
say
it
and
apply
it
to
me.
And
they're
not
ashamed
to
call
me
Satan
either.
A
Yesus
Dread
is
called
Satan
by
Christafari
because
the
Yesus
Dread
tells
Christafari
he
exists,
and
many
brothers
and
sister
in
Rastafari
with
him.
Because
the
existence
of
Yesus
Dreads
and
Christian
Rastafarian,
the
ones
who
would
rightfully
be
carrying
that
name
Christafari
which
he
prevented
from
being
used
truthfully
by
patenting
it
as
a
trade
mark
for
business.
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have
one
final
word
of
advice
for
my
accuser.
If
you
wish
to
stop
being
called
an
"accuser,"
then
stop
your
out-of-context
misquotations,
off
based
judgments
and
remove
your
60-page
accusation.
Then
this
posting
will
no
longer
be
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| This
is
indeed
how
Mark
Mohr
"fixes
problems".
He
deletes
them.
Boom.
Gone.
Next
one...
In
my
phone
conversation
with
him,
I
asked
him
why
he
was
talking
with
me
anyway.
After
all,
in
the
"final
rebuke"
I
was
given
to
Satan
and
they
also
made
Yesus
say
I
was
to
be
treated
as
a
"publican
and
pagan
man".
He
agreed
that
he
was
not
acting
according
to
the
biblical
process
they
initiated
to
me.
More
simply
put:
The
Bible
tells
you
that
when
you
give
someone
to
Satan
you
don't
talk
with
him
anymore.
To
"fix
that
problem"
he
then
said:
"Do
you
want
me
to
take
it
off,
then"?
I
answered
him
to
leave
it,
as
it
already
happened.
Like
so
many
things
already
happened.
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will
know
that
we
are
Christians
by
our
love.
A
house
divided
against
itself
cannot
stand.
I
do
truly
love
you
with
the
compassion
of
Christ
and
am
sorry
to
have
to
answer
your
challenge,
but
you
demanded
it.
This
is
my
final
response
on
this
matter. |
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| Well,
there
was
a
final
rebuke,
and
there
was
a
final
response.
I
don't
think
it
is
so
final,
though.
This
whole
response
is
just
a
small
part
of
it
all.
I
wanted
to
write
a
more
general
response,
kind
of
like
the
one
he
wrote
here,
but
with
quotes
and
links
of
course.
However,
the
research
for
the
follow-up
of
my
essay
will
take
longer
as
a
group
has
formed
and
the
research
goes
deeper.
In
the
meantime
the
so-called
response
goes
around
like
some
kind
of
thought
out
piece
that
is
a
sufficient
answer
to
my
essay.
I
hope
therefore
to
have
satisfied
those
people
who
were
waiting
for
my
comments
on
this
"response"
a
little
more.
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